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sugarbasil 22nd March 2008 07:49 AM

[2008] kanariya thoughts
 
I know this is kind of random, considering this song is so old, but I thought it'd be kind of interesting to have a discussion about it since I can't find one about it.

What does everyone think of it (the song[s] and the PV)? Personally, I feel the song's tune itself lacks a little something and the PV is pretty ok, but I really love the lyrics. I'm absolutely in love with them. I think they're so much meaning behind them. Also, Ayu looks gorgeous in the PV. :P

Does anyone have any sort of idea if there's any sort of meaning behind the PV? I think the fact that the little old lady has the black eye make-up is really cool. :P

Your thoughts?

sibby 22nd March 2008 11:17 AM

Aw man, the whole song is so ***** and weird and all..

i don't really know the meaning, but i dont mind knowing :D the whole black makeup thing was weird too >_____>

i never really thought too much about it >_> its just another weird ayu pv to me :P

yoshino 22nd March 2008 11:41 AM

hahaz. I think we are some lazy people who don't think much about it. lolz.

yeah, it's jus weird to me too. People with the headphones looking around and Ayu lying there.... I also don't know what's going on. Anw I didn't see the lyrics so probably I don't find the link with the pv yet.

I hope someone will come and anaylse this pv too. hehez.

(Ayu certainly look nice in black.^_^)

Beffi 22nd March 2008 12:10 PM

I remember a thread about this last year some time.

The PV is really weird, and I find it hard to understand what its meaning is, but "kanariya" means "canary" but the only bird in the PV is like, black, such as a raven or a crow.

But the lyrics say:
"The city is alive
The people are restless
The birds that
fly into the night
are already asleep..."


The birds that fly into the night...? A bird associated with the night is either a raven or a crow, so that might explain the bird in the video.

Canaries are mentioned in the lyrics:
"
It's not that the canaries whose voices were crushed to death
couldn't cry."
Canaries are birds, but here she's talking as if canaries were people, with feelings and things.

And there's people looking quite sad and/or shocked in the videos:
" I fear
my dreams waking up
My heart breaks
I'm afraid to go."
Maybe they're in fear? Black = night = fear = sorrow ...?
Haha, I don't know, but that's all I can get out of watching the video. >_<

tommy96814 22nd March 2008 12:19 PM

pretty hot to see ayu cover in jewels :D

DestinyWishes 22nd March 2008 01:19 PM

I love the PV! I don't know what the meaning behind it is though. I don't like the original song, but I love the remix. :heart

KuroixShiroi_Namida 22nd March 2008 01:37 PM

...Mmh i haven't put much thought into the song + pv tbh D:!

fanmail 22nd March 2008 02:03 PM

I think I'm the only ayu fan in the world who actually LOVES the original mix. XD

The PV is amazing, I love it. There's so much symbolization within it, and the song's lyrics are so deep and meaningful. <3

Catzi 22nd March 2008 04:18 PM

I think it's so high pitched that the original song isn't that good. But the remixes are great, and the lyrics are amazing.

The PV is okay.

prussian blue 22nd March 2008 04:34 PM

well i never concentrate listen to the song...
i just remember the high pitched of ayu's sound and the BG vocal...
no comment

ayuzlove 22nd March 2008 05:08 PM

hmmm...the song dun really attract my attention at all...same for the pv...but ayu with long black hair looks very pretty :D

Coelacanth 22nd March 2008 05:29 PM

I also dislike the original version, but the remixes are all pretty okay. I tend to forget this song is in her discography.

milky_way 22nd March 2008 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1383787)
I think I'm the only ayu fan in the world who actually LOVES the original mix. XD

I like the original mix too :D

fanmail 22nd March 2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milky_way (Post 1384117)
I like the original mix too :D

we rock. :hi5 it's such a unique ayumi song. xD

Chibi_Venus 22nd March 2008 07:28 PM

Haha that's really strange that this thread was made because I just recently watched the PV for "kanariya" on one of my DVDs! :P

I personally love this song and the PV. Both have that mysterious feel; I think the fact that it's very underrated (and mysterious to fans) also boost up my love for both the song and the PV.

The lyrics indeed are quite special and the PV is fun to interpret and look at different interpretations.

jon_the_d 22nd March 2008 08:27 PM

oh no..not again....

i think we need someone who is very very well versed in japanese literature and history and folklore to explain the whole point of the "canary" reference in this song. I am convinced it is referencing some well known story or something. not just random personification or allegory.

until we have some one who knows what the canary reference might be, I think I'm gonna avoid all the random specualtion that is bound to ensue.

latuz

reixminako 24th March 2008 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon_the_d (Post 1384232)
I am convinced it is referencing some well known story or something. not just random personification or allegory.

But what if it IS a random personification or allegory?

hehe.

I'll ask my Japanese professors about it tomorrow and get back to you on that...they're all very well-read and are pretty much geniuses, so if they don't know anything about a canary story or something like that, then I'd say it's probably just ayu being creative with this one.

GRACE 24th March 2008 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1383787)
I think I'm the only ayu fan in the world who actually LOVES the original mix. XD

The original mix is the hidden track on LOVEppears right? If so, I like it too.


This PV was so strange that I blocked it out of my memory after seeing it it. But I love the song <3~ I'm sure if it's Ayu, then there has to be some sort of bigger picture involved.

bluegie 24th March 2008 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1384119)
we rock. :hi5 it's such a unique ayumi song. xD

you can count me in as well. I love kanariya (original version in LOVEppears) to death. This song actually made me think she has something inside :D. Before that I only listened to appears and WHATEVER. The former song was so japanese, while the latter one was super weird to me (as I wasn't into dance music). I remember the first time I listened to kanariya was on the plane (the time when the single was released). I was like, "wow this song is better than the other two" LOL.

This song (esp original version) is just extremely unique in ayu's discography. I've never heard another song from ayu similar to kanariya. (same to NEVER EVER, another unique one).

To me, canary gives me an image that it is always an expensive pet to be kept in the cage by its owner. So practically it's pretty yet lonely... being captured inside a cage forever... No freedom at all.

I didn't read the lyrics of kanariya, so I dunno if there's any real connection to that golden bird at all.. :P.

jon_the_d 24th March 2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reixminako (Post 1386092)
But what if it IS a random personification or allegory?

hehe.

I'll ask my Japanese professors about it tomorrow and get back to you on that...they're all very well-read and are pretty much geniuses, so if they don't know anything about a canary story or something like that, then I'd say it's probably just ayu being creative with this one.

excellent! you do that! and then let us know! I hope they have some idea! cos then there's a few more ayu lyrics related questions I've got for them!!!!


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