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Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

To be honest a fancy site with the lovely photos doesn't impress me. Just give me a professional photographer and people will think that fur farms are an animal friendly environment. Oh give me a break. Europe might be slightly more friendly but many developing countries are unregulated and do not really care about ethics. I suggest reading this site instead and watching the videos.

These farms are controlled just as tightly (if not more,because the anti fur movement people are constantly watching them too) as the farms of other domesticated animals, so there isn't any difference. I remember a while ago when some animal rights people were attacking the farms releasing the animals and later on they found a lot of dead animals in the woods, starved to death because they could not survive by themselves...

I've been through all (or at least most) PETA sites already (like furisdead), before making this argument, and making up my mind about this, I have seen thata page and others already.

I'm not blind and you don't need to write in caps. I know you're not. Problem is that you are not aware of the monstrosity of the fur trade. They are not killed humanely in most cases and are tortured for their life. Also sometimes they skin them alive.

I have no idea how you can claim this, as it says in my earlier posts, I have been reading PETA material and other sources...

I'm against cruel farming, but not fur farming that is as humane as other farming. You're making it sound like all fur trade is cruel, or rather the nature of fur trade is cruel, and that's not true.

Also animals caught from the wild are actually creating another problem: biodiversity loss.

Like mentioned earlier in this thread, no serious fashion haouse would use threatened animals in their products. Usually the animals are farmed in their native country or native environment, like crocodile and alligators.

Not only would it be a tradegy if a fashion house used threatened animals, but it would definetly not be good for the image and it would probably suffer a long time profits.

In some nations finally some people are developing something similar to a conscience and they're banning them. However I can tell you than in my country where hunting is so popular that hunters disregard law and threaten everyone with their rifles since their intelligence is limited.

Allthought I couldn't care less about hunting myself and I think it's horrible, if banned a lot of animals would probably catch diseases and starve as there would be too many of them.

By the way, just adding this so people know, the fur industry is well known to use dog/cat fur for trimmings around coats.

And this makes is...? Worse? better? Cats and dogs have any more value than mink? I was not aware...

Originally Posted by Gedatsu

I'm just saying that there CAN be a middle ground - you don't need to be ZOMGNOFURZ4EVA or KILLDATANIMALZnTAKEITZFURZ, you can still think that wearing real fur is acceptable as long as it was obtained through humane means.

Yeah, I think it's important to remember that PETA/Fur is dead is one of many sources of material and it's just as important to be critical on taking in that as taking in any other information.