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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE
To be honest, Namie just got lucky with BEST FICTION. Hasn't she been struggling for a while? Not saying that she doesn't have talent or anything... I love "NEW LOOK"!
BTW, Seiko Matsuda is also called "The Empress of JPop"?! She's like 1,000 years old and she releases still single after single, every year a couple... she doesn't stop even though she only sells 10,000 copies per single; THIS is what I don't want to happen to Ayu!!!!
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So what if she is 1,000 years old? lol.I hope you didn't mean for you post to come off as so insulting. All being called Empress or Queen of J-Pop means is that they are artists who have reached legendary status - it doesn't mean that no one else can ever have the title or that the title needs to be "passed" to someone else. Honestly there are many JPop or Idol "Queens" and they are still referred to as such. There is no single "one."
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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE
I'm judging POPULARITY based on sales.
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But it is a mistake to judge popularity based on sales in Japan. There are so many artists that are completely ubiquitous in Japan, so famous, always on tv, in magazines etc, yet there CD sales may look low by comparison. Take Johnny's for example, it is infamous that their albums sell like crap yet no one could claim that they are unpopular they are absolutely everywhere that you turn in Japan. Aiko - bad sales but extremely popular. Fukuyama Masuharu - the guy is a legend still but when is the last time he had an out of the park hit? Seiko Matsuda - sells like crap now, yet fills arena tours ever year despite her age. (It would be awesome if Ayu in her 40s could have the same type of everlasting popularity that Seiko does, so don't be so quick to insult.) In short, Japan is an odd place.
Good cd sales are not the only consideration for popularity in Japan.
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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE
Yes but what I meant was that her sales have dropped more dramatically than Ayu's; face it, she's lost a whole lot of popularity, even more than Ayumi.
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Amuro's drop in popularity though was due mostly to controversy and a self imposed break, not necessarily because people were tired of her or didn't like her anymore. She then drastically changed her style and built her popularity up again from the bottom up.
I don't like the Namie versus Ayu argument because I love them both. But since this is an Ayumi board, usually people are biased against Namie when really, the truth is that Namie at her height of popularity I would be willing to say was actually more famous and influential than Ayumi at the height of hers. (And Ayumi was HUGE, but Namie just slightly more I would say. Both were way up there though.)
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Originally Posted by kotora
seriously, I boycott this kind of BS poll. Who wants to join?
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That's fine. But if you really mean it, then you have to boycott every other Oricon poll, including the ones that have Ayu at #1.