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Old 25th December 2008, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by maikaru View Post
Maybe its true about billboard, I dont really know, its a new thing..
But most companies in Japan base success on Oricon and not Billboard.
Then, Avex takes both Oricon and mu-mo, and probably views itunes sometimes too.
You said that Oricon omits some stores in Japan, but doesnt Billboard do that exact thing online?
If it only rates iTunes, then it is really not anymore effective than Oricon, because Days is not on iTunes Store Japan.
Billboard is still very new, and the tradition is Oricon.
It's not so easy for Billboard to be trusted, even that Oricon had the scandal with someone accusing them to screwing the numbers in the past, with a legal case, etc.
support your point. I dun say Oricon is the best source of determining popularity. However, it's still the authority of the music industry. Just look at how the companies deal with Oricon. Do they trust Billboard as well? Maybe, but probly not much, since it's fairly new to Japan. Right now we look at oricon + recochaku to see how well the sales in phsyical and digital formats respectively. It's better than just look at iTunes since many people buy mp3s on other sites as well (iPod should be popular in Japan, but not that it totally conquer the whole market).

And why do we care about Oricon? Because the companies do, and the Japanese do. If the Billboard becomes the authority in Japan one day, we'll change the title to [Charts & Rankings] ayu ayu we love you BILLBOARD SALES THREAD .

@Luv: And about radio station debate. Well artists going there for promoting materials doesn't mean anything at all. There are so many radio shows on a day. The bosses can still give order regarding playing what songs on let's say, 50% of the shows (probly exaggerating or underestimating). An Artist just goes to promote the album on one or two shows per radio station. Like I said there're more than 10 - 12 show a day, and there are more than a few stations within an area in Japan. How can you be so sure that there's no manipulation within?

But I must agree one of your points: Don't blame the illegal downloads that much. Blame oricon for not including digital sales instead. They really should invite the digital world to the charts asap. Or else they'll be losing their authority.
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