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Originally Posted by njanjayrp
I think you shouldn't compare HP and Morning Masume to Ayu, most of those girls are idols and have a bunch of hard core otaku's backing them up, even though their sales generally suck now. Plus keep in mind that many of those artists on tour prolly perform in smaller halls/arenas than Ayu is with less concert dates. There is still time and some of the tickets might simply sell when the tour actually takes off. Sure what you said might be true as we all know that less people seem to like Ayu's music, but as I said before, every single discussion seems to be just for the sake of stating that she's losing her popularity which is rather obvious and it's needless to discuss it over and over again. So I am sorry I am having troubles seeing a point here. Sure this might be the first time this is happening, but this is the first time she is having 35 days for one of her tours and rather than being negative you could simply say that those 2 pretty obvious facts might be related + you said it yourself that this is the first time this has happened even though her sales have been declining the past number of years, so I guess what Andre said makes way more sense.
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The MM comparison is to show just how bad it is; ie, if MM has less tickets on the resale market than Ayu is then that is 1. weird and 2. not good. Even with their smaller venues, they continuously have hundreds of tickets at the resale shops. To see Ayu be the one with that amount (and even surpassing it) is what is weird. Anyone else that has frequented resale shops would understand what I am talking about.
The number of dates of the tour should be a small factor, but certainly not to this extent. Other artists with multiple concerts scheduled at the same places are not having this happen. I mean you add on a few more dates than usual and suddenly that means your resale market tickets go from a few dozen to where they are now and going upwards? - there has to be other factors at work.
And I really don't see what the problem is in discussing this (although it should be moved to the tour thread). It IS something that is significant and it is certainly something more worthy of serious discussion than a lot of what gets thrown around on this board. I don't see how its not valid for discussion.
btw, in less than a day the number of available tickets went from 530 to 625. Also keep in mind that they don't count pairs of tickets individually. 1 pair of tickets just gets counted as 1 so actually its way more than 625 but it is way to tedious to figure out what the exact number would be, but at the very least a hundred more.
edit: Even after I just posted this it went up again to 641! It'll be interesting to see after the first Saitama show how many tickets were unable to resell at all. Hopefully they will sell a lot of the tickets on the day of the show at least, but it will be interesting to see for how low of a price. Sad, sad time - normally all the tickets for that show would be gone or very close to gone by now, especially considering that it is the first date of the tour. Generally the first and last are the hardest to get tickets for.
Sorry if you think it sounds too negative, but I just don't like this happening. It would be different if you could say the same thing were happening for other artists, but unfortunately, it's not.
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Originally Posted by SolarAngel
I just hope that her album sales are bottoming out with Next Level and it can only look up from here.
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I agree. I am hoping that this is the lowest of her low period and then somewhere down the line like Namie she will be able to have a major comeback. Although as someone pointed out, people said the same thing about Secret and Guilty.