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Old 1st July 2009, 11:16 AM
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^ There is no doubt though that the doctors behavior is questionable to say the least. Why disappear after the fact and immediately hire a criminal attorney even though the police had said he wasn't a suspect. Not calling 911 immediately makes absolutely no sense, I doubt he was the only person there (for sure he wasn't since someone else made the 911 call and the caller uses the word "they"), and if he was you still always call 911 before you start CPR - it doesn't matter how much CPR you do if no ambulence is on the way.
Well, I don't deny his behavior was questionable. However, with the way the media and people try to find small tidbits to place a heavy burden over anything, I do believe it is more prudent for him to be very cautious on what is going to be said, because since he was one of the last people that were around michael and the fact he was also a doctor do surely have a heavy implication over this issue. The last sentence is not true. If there's more than one person in a place and one of them knows advanced life support techniques, this person should never delay the CPR in order to do something else (calling, etc). They should start CPR an yell for somebody else to call the ambulance. I will actually say something opposite from what you stated: it doesn't really matter if any ambulance is on its way if the person's brain and heart have already been fully damaged by the lack of oxygenation/perfusion after a few minutes of a cardiac arrest in which CPR was neglected just because the person was calling 911 to give instructions. Unless neither of them didn't know what to do, and were to receive CPR instructions through the phone. He was a doctor so receiving instrucitons to perform CPR was theoretically not to be necessary lol. He shouldn't really stop CPR in order to call the ambulance. I'm sure michael had other people at home to do that.


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If he can somehow manage the feat of performing CPR with one hand, he can certainly do it with 2 hands while talking on the phone supported by his shoulder. That would actually make more sense than anything he has claimed. Also this guy was supposed to be a cardiologist (but he was not board certified, there's a major red flag right there) but yet he apparently didn't know how to properly run a heart related code? Nor did he have a crash cart with any of the materials that are actually necessary in emergency situations. Why hire a cardiologist in the first place then?
There's a msiconception here. Cardiologists don't walk with medication charts. Also, hiring a cardiologist doesn't mean the cardiologist will necessarily have to pay a visit with a mobile ICU unit. That's really unreal to think at the least. If Mike's condition was so bad that a doctor would have to pay a visit like that, he would have to have been in a hospital instead. It makes no sense to be on a house with no medical team to help and to be carrying advanced support medications just for the sake of that-who's going to venopuncture, break vials, prepare syringes, apply the emdication, get the defibrilaltor ready for use, performa cardiac massage, intubate, ventilate and everything else all at once? He wouldn't even be able to handle everything alone, which means he shouldn't even be carrying them. Unless he's a well trained octopus. If there was an eminent need for such things, Michael shouldn't even be at home at first place.


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I actually asked my mother about the hospital beds thing (she has been a nurse for 25+ years) and she confirmed that CPR should never be given on a bed - doesn't matter how firm it is, especially when the person could be moved to the floor. Hospital beds are firmer than most beds, yet nurses/doctors are still required to put a backboard underneath a patient when giving CPR. You can see the same opinion from several other doctors and nurses.
If you are on a hospital, you pretty much make sure you're not missing any routine, specially since materials are always placed in a way the routine will be performed as efficiently as possible. One rule in medicine is that nothing is 100% a rigid rule (no pun intended). I'm quite sure the fact michael's CPR was made on a bed was not what ultimately lead to his death, and putting the blame on that is really a bit too much. I do question the way the maneuver was done as described by his attorney though. That on the other hand sounds weird, and could have actually made CPR non-efficient.

I'm not denying this doctor might have some guilty on the whole thing though. I'm just pointing out that we shouldn't be palcing the blame over things that really might not have fully interfered in this outcome. It's weird that this guy was a cardiologist without a board certificate and other stuff. I wonder if Michael hired some cheap doctor so that he could to have easier/prompt access to control prescription drugs like opioid drugs though. With his money and the way some doctors prostitute their profession for money, that wouldn't really surprise me.
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