For me engrish is when you have a sentence that doesn't make sense like BoAs "Shine we are"...It's ok if the pronounciation is bad but when the lyrics don't make sence I think they should stick with japanese...The one with the best english is Utada...BoA I can mostly understand her english..Just listen to DOUBLE the english version and Sara the english version her english there is very good....And Namies english has improved a lot since her debut and the lyrics in her songs do make sence....But sometimes it can be cute with engrish.
