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Old 11th June 2004, 01:40 PM
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Questions about the ending of monochrome

Hmm, very curious to know why does "monochrome" stops so abruptly that i thought the track was faulty initially, can anyone explain why?
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Old 11th June 2004, 01:47 PM
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My only guess was that perhaps Ayu wanted it to end like that. When I first heard the guy talking at the end, I thought it was a fake song, but it turns out that it's just how it is
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Old 11th June 2004, 02:05 PM
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yeah, i thought i got the faulty track...but i dun really like the idea of ending the song like this...
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Old 11th June 2004, 02:12 PM
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^ too bad, she does though. I don't think there's an explanation besides the fact that she wants to.

But 'monochrome' on the 'A Single' doesn't end abruptly.
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^ too bad, she does though. I don't think there's an explanation besides the fact that she wants to.

But 'monochrome' on the 'A Single' doesn't end abruptly.
It does, I have the A single and it still does. Thought it was quite weird the first time I heard it too.
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It does? Er, I guess I've only listened to mine once...
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Old 11th June 2004, 04:14 PM
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All "monochrome"s end abruptly. If you read masa's reviews I think he tries to give an explanation for that cut...It has to do with the lyrics, meaning the thoughts in the lyrics have to be interrupted like the song..something like that.
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Old 11th June 2004, 04:38 PM
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Gt ask masa Only he knows i think.
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Old 11th June 2004, 04:55 PM
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Old 12th June 2004, 03:06 AM
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^ It doesn't help though when you're new and DLing it and you can't figure out whether it's supposed to be like that or not =_=
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I first thought that it was a glitch in my CD. But then, listening to the single version, that guy says, "Yeah, right..." and I realized that it was because...

At the end of the song, she sings

La la la la la la la~i...
大丈夫だってうなずいた
La la la la la la la~i...
私はとても強いから

[I said OK, nodding in agreement
Because I am so strong...]

It's a front that the person in the song is putting up, I think. She reluctantly agreed, saying that she was strong. I imagine her looking upset and singing such words. It's like people who say, "I'm fine, I'm fine," so that people don't see their weakness. So, the guy says, "Yeah right." And the album cuts off after the lie is uttered. I think MASA-san's explanation is much the same, no?
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I think MASA-san's explanation is much the same, no?
An excerpt from Masa's site:

"When "monochrome" was put into the album, one idea was added to ―― to cut off the music just after the last phrase, suggesting the opposite meaning. I think it shows straight which was her real intention"

There's more to that, of course, so check out the above link. So essentially, you were right on the interpretation, hanabiwings
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Old 12th June 2004, 04:13 AM
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cool! Thanks fer the wonderful explanation!!
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Old 13th June 2004, 12:59 AM
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i think masa knows tyhe answer aheuahueae... ^^
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Old 13th June 2004, 05:50 AM
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i thought i got cut off dling too..haha..i dled twice and found out itz the same~
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Old 16th June 2004, 11:41 AM
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Ayu seems to have a thing for that, "Independent" stops ebrutly while filtering into "+" on Rainbow. One can only get a full version of the song on "H". Might just be clever marketting to sell more CDs...
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Old 16th June 2004, 12:12 PM
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We all know she does it because it's COOL!
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Old 24th August 2005, 06:13 PM
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monochrome?

What is up with the ending of the song?
*confused*
It sounds like that slam the CD down and then a guy says "yeah right"
What the...
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Old 25th August 2005, 01:25 AM
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It's how it's suppose to be. x] i think we talked about this already somewhere in the threads...

The lyrics are really optimistic and saying how "I'll be stronger" but in the end the "yeah right" doubts her point.
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Old 25th August 2005, 03:24 AM
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The album version, on top of having a different mix, just suddenly stops and is interrupted by the interlude. I never liked that... the "yeah right" solidifies the idea that ayu's lying to herself, saying she's strong... the interruption does help say that, but the "yeah right" really makes you go "oooh, i get it".
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