Ayu's "disadvantage"

GSTS™ · #1 21st February 2004, 11:14 PM

Lately, I've started to listen to a lot of variety of music again and looking at Ayu, I think it's a big disadvantage that she only sings about her and her friends' experiences. I mean, does she always have to be so honest? It's just music after all, right? Won't she ever run out of ideas and have to sing about other things soon?

So, my quick question is, Do you think it's a disadvantage that Ayu has to write songs that are (always) personal?

Isn't music something you just listen to because you just like the way it sounds? Can't Ayu just write about something as ridiculous as pink bunnies and still make a good song about them? She's already proven she's capable by singing other songs on Ayu Ready, after all, so why not step out of bounds and try writing about other things once in a while?

PickleCookies · #2 21st February 2004, 11:18 PM

I don't think it's a disadvantage at all. People like songs that they can relate to.

Coelacanth · #3 21st February 2004, 11:28 PM

yea... but would it be good for her career??

***ImpactBreaker*** · #4 21st February 2004, 11:29 PM

Disadvantage? That's a gift.

I'm glad she is able to turn her emotions, feelings and experiences into complex lyrics. She talks about human emotios and I'm sure she will never run out of ideas at all. Wouldn't like to see her singing "Who let the dogs out woo woo woo woo woo" LMAO!

tl1029530921 · #5 21st February 2004, 11:40 PM

honestly....lyrics are an important part of what i like about music. The main reason i turned away from American music to Japanese music because most lyrics in american music are just.....yuck. I find asian music and lyrics are much more meaningful...well..,most.

jerms · #6 21st February 2004, 11:43 PM

lol..i doubt she'd ever run out of things to write about..hey, she hastn written about jerms yet. =/

Quote:

but isn't that an amazing showmanship of disrespect to write about something that personal?

..huh? wtheck how? lol

Coelacanth · #7 21st February 2004, 11:45 PM

I even find BoA's and Namie's lyrics more meaningful to say... Britney's and Beyonce's. She can write whatever she wants as long as she keeps it meaningful... That's important to me...

***ImpactBreaker*** · #8 21st February 2004, 11:49 PM

Well I usually pay attention to music arrangement and composition first...if I don't like it at all I usually won't care to know about the lyrics. When a song is just ok in composition and arragement sometimes after you read the lyrics and they are awesome that song sometimes turn a lot more interesting and it ends up getting better than just ok. when a song is awesome and the lyrics too I really get in LOVE with it! When a song is awesome and the lyris are bad, then we are talking about some BoA's songs ahahah

PickleCookies · #9 21st February 2004, 11:53 PM

But Ayu's songs have good composition and good lyrics. So why complain?

ayu_ready78 · #10 22nd February 2004, 12:24 AM

Most songwriters in bands/solo (at least here in the States) writes about situations they can relate with. It gives them a voice their audience can sometimes relate to and also a way to write better than sth they know nothing about.

Unimatrix Prime™ · #11 22nd February 2004, 12:31 AM

This can be equated to Ayu's remixes. Take for example, Evolution. The original mix is liked by many, but when some people here the Oriental Spa mix, for example, most dislike the song soon after. It doesn't mean that the lyrics are bad, but I normally listen to a song's arrangement first, rather than the lyrics. I'm sure a song about clouds with a trance beat would interest me more than a song about a broken friendship with a polka theme. Equally important is the person's voice. If Ayu began to sound like a rabid hyena, it can totally ruin what would otherwise be a great song.

***ImpactBreaker*** · #12 22nd February 2004, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GSTS™
To help you understand, Greatful days had very beautiful lyrics but a lot of people did not like the song. Was it worth it writing lyrics like that and for people to just indirectly say the song was not as good as the lyrics? What about (new) fans that like her just because her songs sound good and don't know (or care about) the lyrics?

Well, greatful days had beautiful lyrics that in my opinion related very strongly to the feel of the song. The song sound kinda "beachy" and well when I was not in a good mood I use to listen to it to cheer me up and it helped. I don't think Ayu wasted her ideas on it, even if a lot of fans didn't like that song, some people really enjoyed it and some (like me

) even loved it ahahha

Chrono · #13 22nd February 2004, 12:38 AM

i have no clue.. really.. not about wether it's a disavantage, nor about the lyrics ^^

i understand very very little of japanese, so for me, it really doesn't matter what she sings, as long as she sings is well.

leafyamazaki · #14 22nd February 2004, 02:06 AM

Naw.... it's not a disadvantage.

Anyway, that's why I don't really like western songs that much now, they get way too repetitive concerning sex, unanswered love letters, and even utter nonsense...

hiro · #15 22nd February 2004, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by leafyamazaki

Anyway, that's why I don't really like western songs that much now, they get way too repetitive concerning sex, unanswered love letters, and even utter nonsense...

Well leafyamazaki, you must've been listening to crappy western music then. There's a lot of good songs from here in the west and i wish people wouldn't generalize so much about the quality of western music. You just have to find the good artists amidst all the garbage, thats all.

Coelacanth · #16 22nd February 2004, 02:52 AM

But, when we refer to Western Music... we automatically think of mainstream western music which includes songs about... "sex, unanswered love letters, and even utter nonsense"

kournikova · #17 22nd February 2004, 02:58 AM

its a gift for me... i have learnt soi many things with ayu's type of song... coz i've been more mature and more wiser...

leafyamazaki · #18 22nd February 2004, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hiro
Well leafyamazaki, you must've been listening to crappy western music then. There's a lot of good songs from here in the west and i wish people wouldn't generalize so much about the quality of western music. You just have to find the good artists amidst all the garbage, thats all.

ummm... I DIDN'T say I stopped listening to western music. And I didn't say ALL western songs were the ones I described. I don't want to start anyarguments on this and I'm just gonna say this, I've been listening to western music since I can remember. And since then most of the songs sounded the same thing. They were sounding not too personal anymore, for me anyways. That's why when I heard jpop songs I easily got "converted" to loving jpop.
I do agree there are some good western artists, but at the rate the crappy ones are rising right now, I'm not gonna take my chances yet until I hear a really really good song that has lyrics that will touch the inside.

Don't get me wrong, I still love a few western artists like I love ayu or any other jpop artists.

PickleCookies · #19 22nd February 2004, 03:23 AM

I see what you mean. I started liking Ayu's music because it sounded good. I don't understand the music, since I don't understand Japanese (well, I understand a small bit- not enough for the songs though). But luckily for Ayu, her good lyrics match her good songs.

But what you said about Greatful days is true. Although not for me, because I liked it before the other & songs. True, some people didn't like it.

**Corybobory** · #20 22nd February 2004, 03:24 AM

who's to say that her songs have *always* been personal?