eMo and Punk and Progressive??

[SakuraBabe17]

I've always wondered what the difference was between the two. Actually i dont knwo what either one really is haha, wouldnt greenday be Punk? But wouldnt they also be emo? Wait can someone define emo? Fall Out Boy is punk, offspring is punk? So confused, why is there so many genres should just call it all rock, or something then theres progressive which i have no idea what it means, and after rock theres a post-rock now?

[Mad_Cactuar]

emo-rock is Coldplay, right? Punk is Greenday, right? So emo-punk is probably Boulevard Of Broken Dreams and Wake Me Up When September Ends I think..

[SakuraBabe17]

ooo so its not bands that are the genre its more like the songs? I dont knwo what coldplay is exactly,, emo rock? i guess that sounds right lol. I was messing with limewire and theres over 30 different types of genres, thats crazy!

like whats alternative rock? or nu-metal?

[Mad_Cactuar]

wow, dont buy into my explanation, I'm not that dependable! I always thought nu-metal was Ayu's ALTERNA and alternative rock was Hikki's Wait&See or Kettobase!.. I only know about pop and alternative XD

[sxesven]

Eh, you're picking out some very random genres here to be honest, haha. Rock has thousands and thousands of subgenres (although a lot of them are quite ridiculous) - so singling out just emo, punk, progressive and post-rock is quite odd, lol (since there isn't really an obvious connection between them). I'll start off with emo and punk, which is the easiest in this situation. Punk, being an offspring of rock & roll, is actually a genre that has many subgenres, emo being one of them. So what is punk? Depends on what kind of punk we're talking about. It's actually too big a genre to summarize it shortly, although this quote from allmusic.com may give you an idea:

Punk Rock returned rock & roll to the basics — three chords and a simple melody. It just did it louder and faster and more abrasively than any other rock & roll in the past.

Read more on All Music Guide.

As for emo, it's a term that's being abused heavily these days. Bands like Green Day, Simple Plan, etc., are being reffered to as emo while they are in fact pop-punk. Emo originated in the 80s, with some of the important bands that kickstarted the genre being Rites Of Spring and Embrace (members of Embrace later went on to form Fugazi, one of the best-known emo bands in the world). To contrary belief, emo is not whiney music made by guys with tight t-shirts who like to cry a lot and write poems. It originally was a quite punk-rockish genre that set itself apart from punk by relatively melodic guitars and such. Over the years it evolved into something much louder and chaotic (key bands: Heroin, Mohinder) and eventually turned out to sound much like hardcore, but with more melodic guitars and vocals - sounding as such more emotional indeed (examples: Envy, Thursday). Here is a *great* site on emo, you can find out what it really is here (and it's not Green Day, and it's definitely not Coldplay!).

As for progressive, I'll pass on that one because I couldn't care less about it, haha. I'm sure there's people here who know more about it.

Post-rock started out around the mid-nineties and composition- and instrumentwise it's often quite far from regular rock. Ten-minute songs are quite usual in this genre and yatta yatta, well, haha, you should just hear it (key bands: Explosions In The Sky, Mono, Godspeed You Black Emperor!).

Want more info, just ask. Exhausted now so all this seems chaotic and messy, sorry about that. You can always check out allmusic.com for some good info.

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As for nu-metal, it's a genre that came into existence somewhere in the late nineties, often combining rap rhythms, metal riffs, and a funky overall feeling (although this isn't a general rule). Key bands: Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, and any other lame band like this you can imagine (from the top of my head: Sevendust, Taproot, Coal Chamber, Soulfly). To clarify: none of Ayu's music is nu-metal, although you can sometimes hear influences by this genre. However, Ayu's music nearly never exceeds the pop genre.

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Just check allmusic.com, they have the most reliable genre definitions, leave for a few.

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by sxesven

Eh, you're picking out some very random genres here to be honest, haha. Rock has thousands and thousands of subgenres (although a lot of them are quite ridiculous) - so singling out just emo, punk, progressive and post-rock is quite odd, lol (since there isn't really an obvious connection between them). I'll start off with emo and punk, which is the easiest in this situation. Punk, being an offspring of rock & roll, is actually a genre that has many subgenres, emo being one of them. So what is punk? Depends on what kind of punk we're talking about. It's actually too big a genre to summarize it shortly, although this quote from allmusic.com may give you an idea:


Read more on All Music Guide.

As for emo, it's a term that's being abused heavily these days. Bands like Green Day, Simple Plan, etc., are being reffered to as emo while they are in fact pop-punk. Emo originated in the 80s, with some of the important bands that kickstarted the genre being Rites Of Spring and Embrace (members of Embrace later went on to form Fugazi, one of the best-known emo bands in the world). To contrary belief, emo is not whiney music made by guys with tight t-shirts who like to cry a lot and write poems. It originally was a quite punk-rockish genre that set itself apart from punk by relatively melodic guitars and such. Over the years it evolved into something much louder and chaotic (key bands: Heroin, Mohinder) and eventually turned out to sound much like hardcore, but with more melodic guitars and vocals - sounding as such more emotional indeed (examples: Envy, Thursday). Here is a *great* site on emo, you can find out what it really is here (and it's not Green Day, and it's definitely not Coldplay!).

As for progressive, I'll pass on that one because I couldn't care less about it, haha. I'm sure there's people here who know more about it.

Post-rock started out around the mid-nineties and composition- and instrumentwise it's often quite far from regular rock. Ten-minute songs are quite usual in this genre and yatta yatta, well, haha, you should just hear it (key bands: Explosions In The Sky, Mono, Godspeed You Black Emperor!).

Want more info, just ask. Exhausted now so all this seems chaotic and messy, sorry about that. You can always check out allmusic.com for some good info.

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As for nu-metal, it's a genre that came into existence somewhere in the late nineties, often combining rap rhythms, metal riffs, and a funky overall feeling (although this isn't a general rule). Key bands: Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, and any other lame band like this you can imagine (from the top of my head: Sevendust, Taproot, Coal Chamber, Soulfly). To clarify: none of Ayu's music is nu-metal, although you can sometimes hear influences by this genre. However, Ayu's music nearly never exceeds the pop genre.

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Just check allmusic.com, they have the most reliable genre definitions, leave for a few.

Oops, told you my explanations were horrendous XD.. Allmusic is my favourite music website! I found it through metacritic

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woiw lmao, sven, forget movies, you ought to be a music professor, mines put me to sleep, least I'd enjoy your lectures

[Peruvian_Sky]

Originally Posted by sxesven

As for progressive, I'll pass on that one because I couldn't care less about it, haha. I'm sure there's people here who know more about it.

I'll take this one. Progressive rock (or prog-rock) was a style of rock music that emerged in the 1970's. It incorporated elements of classical and jazz, instruments not commonly associated with rock music such as Hammond B3 organ, mellotron, Chapman stick, and in the case of King Crimson, Warr guitar. Progressive rock is known for it's long songs many divided into movements as a classical piece would be. It is also know for it's use of odd time signatures. Progressive rock musicians are usually very skilled with their instruments. Progressive rock gave way later to progressive metal. Which is essentially the same only it's the combination of heavy metal with jazz, classical, and other styles. The odd time signatures and complex song structures are still there. There is a new breed of progressive rock/metal bands emerging (The Mars Volta, Coheed & Cambria, and to a certain degree Meshuggah).

Key bands:

Progressive Rock: Pink Floyd, Yes, Rush, King Crimson, Genesis (Peter Gabriel-era), Gentle Giant, Marillion, Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Enchant, Porcupine Tree.

Progressive Metal: Dream Theater, Symphony X, Queensryche, Pain of Salvatation, Meshuggah, Fates Warning, Opeth.


Check out progarchives.com. They have songs for download and plenty of great information about the genre.

[sxesven]

Excellent piece there, Peruvian_Sky. I'll admit that I initially had the idea of tagging on 'like Peruvan_Sky' to my last sentence there, haha.