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Old 2nd April 2009, 10:26 AM
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[PEACE!]what would you tell that hater?

the time is now!!! if you are tired of people saying bad things about ayu and other artists that you love, let it go in this thread!!!

we are looking for people with good arguments to bring this trolls/haters down!! they think that they can spend their lives talking bad things about other artists! lets show them that life is worth for better things!! like a walk in the park for example (like namie amuro said ), or to fall in love!! there should be not place for hate in this forum!!

we should respect others if we want to be respected.

say what you feel, say what you think its right and we will accept it!!



this is my opinion about the haters:

they should really stop trolling about other singers/bands, if they don't like it, they can go away and never comeback!! and they should respect others favorites all the time! life would be much better for them and for everyone else!!! stop a troll and save the World!!!!!

And, I'm sure that they don't like being called trolls, haters, etc. So please! stop being so silly and grow up NOW!






*help*how to use this thread

Example: if you see people saying bad things about ayu or other artists that you like, don't get involved, and if you really feel like saying something to them, come here and let it go





this is a peaceful thread, so people can say what they feel and think, use good friendly arguments and not "gossiping" or I will ask you to delete your comment

do not name members of this forum or any other website, do not insult people that you might know personally or very well.

Please follow the forum's rules and the rules in this thread if you don't want to get your comments deleted.

any fights will not be allowed! opinions shall be respected at all times!!


(the reason for this thread is to help people that's being affected by trolling before to let go those bad feelings and become a better fan! LOL there should be not place for bulling and trolling in this forum*)

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Old 2nd April 2009, 11:36 AM
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i will tell them this.

"You could have enjoyed another hour of sleep instead of typing all these nonsense about someone you hate. Get a life. Go drink a cup of lemonade."
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Old 2nd April 2009, 12:58 PM
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I think the best thing to do is to just let them talk **** about other artists. If people don't pay attention to them, then they'll know that no one gives a crap about what they have to say. Unfortunately, people don't always ignore the haters...

I think what needs to be realized is that those haters have no lives. They are going on the internet to badmouth other people. I mean, that's seriously really lame. The internet is the most cowardly place to start trouble.

And also, why does it matter? Why do you have to defend yourself? You're never going to meet these haters in your life, so why bother yourself with their stupidity? As long as you enjoy your favorite artists' music, then you shouldn't let what other people say get in your way. They don't matter. You can't help what they're gonna say, so just live and let live
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Old 2nd April 2009, 01:07 PM
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I think that people who talk badly about the others are just unsatisfied people.
They don't gain satisfaction from their lives so they criticize who reached a goal or success in something.

Anyway the world's full of this kind of frustrated who canniot accept and appreciate the worth of being different.
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Old 2nd April 2009, 02:41 PM
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all i could think that those people who said bad things about certain artists are just overjealous because their artists couldn't make it to the top like the other artist..
why have to be so sad about that?
i mean, as long as you support your artists and don't care so much about others~


*but still..this whole anti-fan thing will never end~*
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Old 3rd April 2009, 04:06 AM
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well, they dont have a Life and just need to waste their time on crapping about other artistes... well, like ayumixx said, they are jealous... jealousy could bring them into a black black hole... it's like karma...

so, just hope they'll get rid of the jealousy thing...

well, mainly because i used to hate Jolin for copying Ayu... but now only i realise that Jolin loves Ayu like we do to her... so why not stand in a different angle to look at someone else... Jolin is what-the-heck beautiful...
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Old 3rd April 2009, 04:24 AM
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I try to ignore them. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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Old 3rd April 2009, 04:32 AM
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^yep. 100%. It takes too much effort to fight with the haters. As someone once said, if you've only got 5 haters, you better see how you can get 6 before the year is over. xD
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Old 3rd April 2009, 05:52 AM
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^complete agreement
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Old 3rd April 2009, 05:55 AM
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hmm i just try to not bother with haters, cause if you pay a lot of attention to them, then you're just fueling them~ so if you don't pay attention to them, the haters just die out~..ah my analogy of using fire XD
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Old 3rd April 2009, 05:57 AM
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Well, sometimes haters say the stupidest thing that piss you off and get you wanting to 'fight' back.

Most of the time, I will try to ignore them. But if I really can't, I'll try to use sarcasm first, I don't usually directly do anything.
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Old 3rd April 2009, 06:05 AM
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haters are dumb

and theres too many around these days. i just ignore them now and half the time i see that "this user is ignored" message
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Old 3rd April 2009, 06:23 AM
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Well people have different motives. And there are plenty of different people. xDDDD

I have a friend who doesn't like Ayu because, "she is too commercial" and he calls her "the doll of commercialism" lol. xDDDD He likes some underground groups and probably thinks that because of mainstream bull**** the beautiful and "pure, uncommercial" underground music doesn't get the attention it needs. I really can't draw the line between them - I listen to a song and if it's good I will listen, regardless of the genre/singer/language. I don't care if it's popular or unpopular performer and I think such situations occur because people have prejudice. ^^

Another annoying thing for people could be overpopularity... In my country nobody knows what jpop is, but in Japan Ayu is overwhelmingly well-known; maybe she has reached something like a godly level, she is basically everywhere - on TV, buillboards, on the number one spot in Oricon, in every PANASONIC ad, promotion of her music and the attention she gets is enormous... So people who believe that other artists are more talented but lag behind because of her, probably feel annoyed. ><

I remember a fansite of a jpop group (which name I will not mention muhaha), where the webmaster was ranting about ayu. He made his way to Japan, and was pissed to see that there was very little to no promotion of his fav group, BUT "ayumi hamasaki was everywhere, flyers, posters and what not". So this illustrates my theory above. lol

If we talk about the common type - trolls that will laugh and say "OMG she is chinese", I don't think they deserve any attention. ^.^ I totally dislike narrow-minded and xenophobic people, but I never get involved into flamewars.

So, If someone talks bad about Ayu, the only thing I do is to show the shocking statistics about her and they get silent ^^. like her sales, a few music videos for over a million dollars each, the records she is always getting in Japan music history and so on and so on. =DDD In other words, I always try to expose as much as I can how worshiped and loved she is, and how their opinion can't change anything about her. And! It always works. ^________^
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Old 3rd April 2009, 06:25 AM
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Old 3rd April 2009, 07:10 AM
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^ That's a good explanation

Usually, when people talks bad about AYu, I try my best to ignore. But some people I really couldn't tolerate. So usually I just use Shut Up n GTFO, hoping that they'll understand that if they don't have constructive comments/anything good to say about Ayu, just get out of the thread.... It never works though^^ Probably because my approach is kinda harsh...
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Old 3rd April 2009, 07:12 AM
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I'll say this.

We're really not getting anywhere by saying we don't like trolls.
action is action. words are words.
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Old 3rd April 2009, 07:20 AM
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haters are totally lame. if you have to reply, reply to them with the cold hard facts about ayu. leaves them speechless and even more bitter. i've probably made a whole bunch of ayu haters punch walls by doing that
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Old 3rd April 2009, 08:43 AM
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I would said "just go to hell and live happily ever after with your envious". Then' I'll shut my mouth and continue my job ignoring them.
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Old 3rd April 2009, 06:46 PM
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I've learnt to ignore them when i see them on threads. There's no point arguing since their sole purpose seems to be to annoy you or shove their unfounded opinions down your throat.
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Old 3rd April 2009, 07:07 PM
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People are entitled to their opinions.

On the flip-side there are Stans who can't tolerate anyone giving critiques on their idol's work.

Either way. What's it to you? You let the internet effect you that much? A good round of debating is always fun but when it comes to downright rudeness, that's different. That would be ignored because, again, it's just the internet.

Some people are just too sensitive.
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