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Old 24th March 2010, 04:15 AM
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Startin' = Rickrolling/Trolling PV?

Hm, I've always thought that Startin' was a bit of a parody of a PV and is not meant to be taken seriously, and I think I've found some proof after watching my Secret DVD today, haha.

Basically, the entire PV is a joke/trolling PV made to have you "WTFing" every second of it. First with the guys talking, then Ayu in random situations that have nothing to do with anything, and finally the icing on the cake excluding Ayu taking off that mask to reveal that SHE was that guy named Laurent....

Notice what was on the top of the charts for the last XX weeks at the end of the PV...


NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP.

I rest my case. We were all rickrolled by Ayu in Startin'.

I wonder if anyone else came up with this theory, haha.

(Apparently, Rickrolling started in May of 2007, a year and 2 months after Startin' came out... did Ayu see the future of the Internet or something? I still think it was a trollish PV and they unintentionally also Rickrolled us, haha...)

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Old 24th March 2010, 04:23 AM
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HAHAHAHAH. I seriously laughed so hard at the idea that Ayu just rickrolled all her fans.
I know exactly what you mean though, every second during that PV I was literally like wait...WHAT?
bahaha. It makes sense and I agree with your theory
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Old 24th March 2010, 04:26 AM
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............

Apparently, this PV was made about a year or more before Rickrolling became common. (May 2007 vs. March 2006)

What the...

-blinks-

The theory doesn't work!? Ayu saw into the future with her large eyes?
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Old 24th March 2010, 04:28 AM
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But-but-but...
I'm a little speechless right now?
Hahaha, insanity.
Anywaaay...it was a good theory and it sounded legit

EDIT: Also, Truehappiness, what are Genki Rockets O__o
I'm way to lazy to download whatever it is right now, and I should really get started on my homework soon
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Old 24th March 2010, 04:31 AM
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what's rickrolled? and how does it apply..lol..pardon my ignorance
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Old 24th March 2010, 04:31 AM
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hahaha I like your theory, first of all because all the "story" or the "situation" of the PV are so WTF*!! D: haha. The beginning is a little stranger (and the final too haha). But I love the "dance sexy" part of the video.

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Old 24th March 2010, 04:35 AM
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what's rickrolled? and how does it apply..lol..pardon my ignorance

its okay I didn't know what it was up until last year hahah
Basically, they put some youtube video, say the video's called Charlie Bit Me or anything and the thumbnail looks like the actual video but when you click on it its actually the music video for Never Gonna Give You Up, and you basically get "rickrolled" sorry if that made no sense whatsoever I fail at explanations hahaha, it makes sense in my head though

Oh and also, the artists name is Rick Astley thats why its called Rickrolling


EDIT: Heres something from Wikipedia if I failed at explaining hahahah [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickroll]
Rickrolling is an Internet meme[1][2] typically involving the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up". The meme is a bait and switch: a person provides a web link that they claim is relevant to the topic at hand, but the link actually takes the user to the Astley video. The URL can be masked or obfuscated in some manner so that the user cannot determine the true destination of the link without clicking. When a person clicks on the link and is led to the web page, he or she is said to have been "Rickrolled". The song may have been favored for this use by those regarding it as the "worst"[3] popular song of all time. Rickrolling has extended beyond Web links to playing the video or song disruptively in other situations, including public places;[2] this culminated when Astley and the song made a surprise appearance in the 2008 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade,[1] a televised event with tens of millions of viewers.
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what's rickrolled? and how does it apply..lol..pardon my ignorance
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The meme is a bait and switch: a person provides a web link that they claim is relevant to the topic at hand, but the link actually takes the user to the Astley video.
Basically, you think that you're going to get to a video like say, the Microphone PV in full and it's actually Rick Astley's music video.

A lot of things (kind of) like this kind of happened in the PV, I think... "Is this Ayu? Who are these two guys? That guy is Ayu? HUH?"... haha.
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Old 24th March 2010, 04:37 AM
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omg you win.
Ayu has rickrolled us all....
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Old 24th March 2010, 04:38 AM
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That's not what rickrolling means...
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Old 24th March 2010, 04:39 AM
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Basically, you think that you're going to get to a video like say, the Microphone PV in full and it's actually Rick Astley's music video.

A lot of things (kind of) like this kind of happened in the PV, I think... "Is this Ayu? Who are these two guys? That guy is Ayu? HUH?"... haha.
So much simpler than mine, yet so much clearer xD

Hahaha, RANDOM buuut: What are Genki Rockets? It's in your sig and I'm faaar to lazy to download it and figure it out
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Nice theory and lol Ayu determined the future XD
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Old 24th March 2010, 07:02 AM
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OO...so the starting, we were expecting to see Ayu's PV..but it led us to...this weird convo..HAHAH..i see..and that coincidence is freaky now that u pointed it out LOL!
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Old 24th March 2010, 08:14 AM
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That's not what rickrolling means...
Well, in Rickrolling, you think you're gonna get one thing, and it ends up being something else. It's kind of a twist, I guess? (Which the PV was full of. Ayu being on set for the music video, disappearing, showing up in that music shop, then appearing for no reason on some street driving next to a group of people, reappearing to dance with her dancers, and then showing up as Laurent...) There's no real equivalent really of a Rickrollesque type thing without the actual song anyway, but it was kind of shown in the end of the PV, so.... eh.

It's not necessarily rickrolling (but the song, Never Gonna Give You Up does appear in some form, haha) but I'd call it a video full of trolling/awkwardness definitely. The video got a rise out of a lot of people when it first came out, didn't it? Haha.

People : "WHAT IS THIS PV? It's terrible!"
Other people : "It's a parody! Loosen up!"
People : "That can't be a parody! I'm so mad!!!!"
Ayu: "Hahahahah."

I'm curious about what the actual concept of the PV is and what they were aiming for. Just cheesiness overall?

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Old 24th March 2010, 08:22 AM
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oh wow, nice find

i always knew ayu was psychic!
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Old 24th March 2010, 09:05 AM
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but it's still a good PV though~
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Old 24th March 2010, 09:22 AM
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Y'know I was watching Startin' a couple of days ago and actually thought about posting on this issue...
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Old 24th March 2010, 12:08 PM
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I guess we were rickrolled lol xD

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People : "WHAT IS THIS PV? It's terrible!"
Other people : "It's a parody! Loosen up!"
People : "That can't be a parody! I'm so mad!!!!"
Ayu: "Hahahahah."

I'm curious about what the actual concept of the PV is and what they were aiming for. Just cheesiness overall?
Hahaha.. I don't know really :/ I didn't really look at the PV as a parody. At first when my friend told me it is I did but later it was kind of.. cool I guess Dancing, driving, then dancing again... hyper I guess. But really I couldn't think of any meaning behind it o_o
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Old 24th March 2010, 12:43 PM
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Well, a lot of the "parody-like" elements of it were obvious similarities to Toxic/her outfit being very Kill Billish... etc...

The entire PV was very un-Ayu, but was attempting to portray a very Western image, which I think it succeeded in doing, just in a really hint-hint-nudge-nudge kind of way... (The two guys talking about nothing, three people in the car reacting to Ayu in an over the top manner, the BOING!!! when the drill hits the wall, that guy in the beginning of the PV that introduces Ayu really cheesily, and that lady who is spraying something on Ayu at the beginning as well, haha.)
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Old 24th March 2010, 02:16 PM
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Does anyone have a transcript to what the two guys were saying? If there is anyone jobless enough to do so. XD

I actually enjoyed the PV. I cringed at first, but in the end, I just see it as it is. RANDOM.
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