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Old 1st May 2011, 12:34 PM
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Why is "monochrome" so underrated ?

Hello folks.

Maybe the question has already been asked before but ...

I wonder why monochrome is so "underrated" in ayu's discography. I mean ... it's probably one of her top 10 songs in my opinion (maybe the best as far as I'm concern. Plus, it's part of her best-selling single !

And she rarely performs it during her concerts. If I'm not mistaking, she performed it in concert tour 2000 and Stadium Tour (and only a small part of it during a medley). That's a shame since that song gives me chills everytime I listen to it. Maybe it's a hard song to sing live ?

What are your opinions and do you regret that too ?

Please ayu, monochrome is a classic, bring it back to your setlists !
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Old 1st May 2011, 01:30 PM
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she also performed it on a-nation 07 but this live wasn't released
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Old 2nd May 2011, 07:34 AM
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it's maybe one of my favourite songs ever and i get emotional whenever i listen to it
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Old 2nd May 2011, 07:55 AM
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It's also underrated because it's just one of her older tracks that fans nowadays probably don't even KNOW about, haha.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 09:15 AM
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Yeah, it's just getting old. And it doesen't have the same catchy "stadium" sing along appeal that Fly high and B&G have. It's a beautiful song though.
it was on her most successful single ever, so it was popular back in the day.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 10:00 AM
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It's also underrated because it's just one of her older tracks that fans nowadays probably don't even KNOW about, haha.
true but is included in A BEST..i believe that also the most recent fans own A Best
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Old 2nd May 2011, 07:45 PM
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true but is included in A BEST..i believe that also the most recent fans own A Best
No its not?
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Old 3rd May 2011, 07:17 AM
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No its not?
i was pretty convinced it was but i've made up my mind..who knows what happened in my head! Anyway it deserved to be included!
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Old 2nd May 2011, 09:28 AM
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It's probably not ever sung at concerts now since she never sang it at her older concerts, so it hasn't become a staple like SURREAL, evolution, etc. It's too bad, because I really love the song as well and wish I could see her perform it live. Then again, it's not like she can sing like she used to anyways, so the time I REALLY wished I could have seen her do it are long gone.
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I'm pretty sure she sang it at one of those 2000 concert tours lol

Or was it And Then? I always get those 2 mixed up even though I love them so much



monochrome is such an icon of a song, specially from that ayu era, I find it much better than Trauma for example.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 06:25 PM
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Ugh, I absolutely adore monochrome .
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Old 2nd May 2011, 06:39 PM
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I love it even more when I hear this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLcHlLGUv0A

She should make such a version in live.
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Old 4th May 2011, 08:57 AM
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I love it even more when I hear this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLcHlLGUv0A

She should make such a version in live.
TOTALLY!! It sounds really amazing with the guitar!!
The trance version made me love it more, she sang it during STADIUM TOUR 2002
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Old 2nd May 2011, 07:00 PM
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I always had issues with it because the ending sucks so much.
other than that it's one of the few songs on LOVEppears I can tolerate. it can get stuck in my head so much. I like the new trance version more than the original now since the ending isn't so bad~
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it's one of the few songs on LOVEppears I can tolerate.
Oh my god. Please tell me this is a joke.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 07:06 PM
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^ The ending bothers me a little too..it sounds tacky .

But other than that I actually have always loved monochrome. I wish it was a little more popular than Boys & Girls because that song has always been pretty average to me...while monochrome has that dreamy, almost fantasy-like quality to it...at least imo.

But I guess it's just as everyone else is saying, it's just an old song.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 08:31 PM
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I really love monochrome
The only part that I didn't like the song is the abrupt ending

Delirium-Zer0 made the extended version here on AHS and I wonder if it is still available
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Old 3rd May 2011, 04:24 AM
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Agree about the ending. I love the song but the ending is incredibly abrupt for no reason I can see. It really takes away from your enjoyment of the song. Its like they didn't know how to end the song and said 'hey lets just record a guy complimenting Ayumi and stealing the demo tape to make it sound cool'
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Old 10th May 2011, 03:30 AM
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Agree about the ending. I love the song but the ending is incredibly abrupt for no reason I can see. It really takes away from your enjoyment of the song. Its like they didn't know how to end the song and said 'hey lets just record a guy complimenting Ayumi and stealing the demo tape to make it sound cool'
Actually... he's not complimenting her at all. He's saying "yeah, right" in a sarcastic voice, and knocking the tape/CD down before leaving the room. Essentially he's rejecting all the lies that the song is telling itself. The abrupt ending on the single version serves the same purpose -- the song is cutting itself off from its own deception.

I see someone answered that already though -- whoops! That's one of the reasons I love monochrome so much. Someone also mentioned that LOVEppears feels like an oddly cold album, and I have to agree. Even though the music can be wonderfully upbeat, the lyrics on the album as a whole have always struck me as rather poignant and pained. It's like the Ayu on this album is keeping herself locked away from something, which makes the title and implication of it (Love appearing) rather contradictory and fascinating -- but now I'm rambling.

I'm so glad she's singing it on this tour! It's a lovely song.
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Old 10th May 2011, 05:04 PM
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It's like the Ayu on this album is keeping herself locked away from something, which makes the title and implication of it (Love appearing) rather contradictory and fascinating -- but now I'm rambling.
She once said the idea on the title is of something that appears to be love, but isn't... The cold tone really fits it
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