Ayu's Korean Sales

tl1029530921 · #1 23rd August 2004, 07:23 PM

anyone nkow how Ayu's doin in Korea?

AfanforXX · #2 23rd August 2004, 07:42 PM

i dunno where to get the sales #s, but don't expect anything high. Last year, there was no million selling album in Korea, and SM hasn't marketed her a lot. The highest was 800,000 last year.

tl1029530921 · #3 23rd August 2004, 08:48 PM

wow..o.o..

tetsuo69 · #4 23rd August 2004, 09:18 PM

i thought the highest was around 150,000( http://www.jpopmusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40834 )

that was one of the reason why korean have their own GRAMMYs awards now....cuz of the poor Cd sales

either way tl1029530921 dont expect sales above 10,000 on ayumi in korea

thats prob 1 of the reasons why japanese singers dont go to other asian countries to promote their Cd's cause of the poor sales compare to their japanese million sellers

AfanforXX · #5 23rd August 2004, 09:50 PM

It's not poor CD sales, the reason in Korea is population and the size of the music industry there. The populations of South Korea and Japan are WAAAAAY different. Japan has over 100 million people, S.K. has 48 million. Japan has the world's 2nd biggest music industry, it can't compare to S.Korea's.

You're numbers are off *mines were off too, but closer*, the highest selling album last year in Korea was 600,000 copies by Kim Gun Mo.

Like anything else, in Korea, as well as people in any other country, people will most likely buy and support their local national artists. This happens in Japan as well, with exceptions.

The article is talking about how Hyori only sold 150,000 copies of her album, and still got most of the daesangs. This does not mean it's because of poor cd sales, it just means that the daesangs, and other korean music awards, were more like a popularity contests than actual judges of talent. The K-Grammys were made to give talented artists, who might not be as popular as Hyori, what they deserved.

Coelacanth · #6 23rd August 2004, 09:51 PM

Isn't 'My Name' still #1 album in Korea? O_o;;

tetsuo69 · #7 23rd August 2004, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfanforXX

It's not poor CD sales, the reason in Korea is population and the size of the music industry there. The populations of South Korea and Japan are WAAAAAY different. Japan has over 100 million people, S.K. has 48 million. Japan has the world's 2nd biggest music industry, it can't compare to S.Korea's.

You're numbers are off *mines were off too, but closer*, the highest selling album last year in Korea was 600,000 copies by Kim Gun Mo.

Like anything else, in Korea, as well as people in any other country, people will most likely buy and support their local national artists. This happens in Japan as well, with exceptions.

The article is talking about how Hyori only sold 150,000 copies of her album, and still got most of the daesangs. This does not mean it's because of poor cd sales, it just means that the daesangs, and other korean music awards, were more like a popularity contests than actual judges of talent. The K-Grammys were made to give talented artists, who might not be as popular as Hyori, what they deserved.

ok thanks for clear up....

but... when i said ... (thats one of the reason why japanese artist dont go to other asian countires to promote their Cd:s

was cuz it was said in some singapore newspaper... that was one of the reason why japanese dont promote their Cd's in other asian countries ..

JinHamasaki · #8 24th August 2004, 01:31 AM

Well....japanese music was banned for a while in Korea...

Naja_Akara · #9 24th August 2004, 01:38 AM

Shouldn't China or India be the largest market? There are more people in those countries than in the US and Japan put together.

AfanforXX · #10 24th August 2004, 03:25 AM

that doesn't necessarily mean that people in those places can afford to buy cds. the poverty rate in both those places is MUCH larger than those in Japan and the US combined.

gakkun · #11 25th August 2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AfanforXX

that doesn't necessarily mean that people in those places can afford to buy cds. the poverty rate in both those places is MUCH larger than those in Japan and the US combined.

ACTUALLY, it's because of the large amount of piracy which occur in China (no idea about India) which prevents people from buying real legitimate CDs. Pirated media usually cost about 1/10 of the original price and usually have very good quality, so not many people would prefer to buy the originals.

Maybe I'm just being patriotic or whatever but China is definitely not poor...the small percentage of the population which CAN afford CDs is already large enough to equal that of Japan's. If it wasn't for piracy, China WOULD be one of the largest music market in the world.

Anyways I really detest how the western media always display the 'poor' or 'third-world' side of China so much that people think it's like Africa with all those dying hungry children or whatever.

lovia · #12 24th August 2004, 05:10 PM

IMO... i think it is the type of music they listen to... k-pop sounds more of hip-hop, rap, techno, rnb to me ... i dun know why... and i guess there is quite of a difference in the way j-pop music is to k-pop is... and i also heard from somewhere (cant remember) that to be an idol in japan, one of the condition is not to accept any fan's gifts, the rationale behind is that: if u have money to buy gifts to show that u support ur idol, y dont u use the money to buy their cds instead to show how supportive a fan u r... so i guess that is one of the factor that contribute to the high sales..

Coelacanth · #13 24th August 2004, 05:14 PM

Koreans don't like pop, do they? x_x

AyuLover · #14 24th August 2004, 06:16 PM

No no, I think Koreans like pop.

Look at BoA's "My Name"-it claimed the whole month of June. Maybe sales there are just....different.

I do hope Ayu's music does well in Korea....it would be great for them to hear of a wonderful and influential artist from Japan.

Brittany · #15 24th August 2004, 07:54 PM

Ayu deserves to be advertised in Korea.. no matter wht.. they don't know what they are missing o_o;

AfanforXX · #16 24th August 2004, 08:59 PM

Using the BoA example, I don't think Koreans like pop. Look at how much her popularity rose after My Name. Pick up and shinhwa cd, pick up se7en, 1tym, epik high, hyori, etc etc etc. One thing I've noticed in the kpop market is how much koreans like a) r&b/hip hop and b) ballads. There are always exceptions tho.

Namie is more popular in Korea because A) she dances and B) she does r&b and C) she held 2 concerts there. I don't know if there are any hamasaki-like artists in Korea, there's always a chance she has a following, but it's not like she'd rival BoA or Namie in terms of popularity.

tl1029530921 · #17 25th August 2004, 10:53 PM

thats how western media pretty much displays the whole of asia.....

Naja_Akara · #18 25th August 2004, 11:18 PM

...And the Middle East and South America. They make it look like every one there lives in mud brick houses with no water or electricity.

tl1029530921 · #19 25th August 2004, 11:28 PM

some of westerners (note i didnt say all so dont kill me) are too closeminded about toehr countries...

openingRUN · #20 26th August 2004, 01:03 AM

i agree, it's rather unfortunate. westerners tend to get big-headed very easily and are swelling with pride and would like to depict other's weaknesses rather than their strengths. it's the same with anything in the media, really... say (hypothetically speaking), someone who has donated millions of $ to charities murders someone... what do u think they'll be remembered for? murder. i think it's the same thing with countries. if there's something that people can sit back and say "wow, they're lower than me, that makes me feel better", then they'll jump at the chance to point it out and disregard the good things. however, i have a feeling that this is just universal human behavior. it's just more apparent in western countries i suppose.

*my rant is done* lol