why does ayu sound so....

[ron234]

why does ayu sound so bad in her old song like "you","poker face" and others? i'm curious

[Love Appears]

I don't think she sounds "bad" in her old songs. Her voice has just matured and changed a lot. Back when she was 19-20, she hadn't had as much experience with singing. The only work she'd done before her first album was rapping. Her range wasn't as developed, and her voice was higher.

Once she had some songs behind her and got used to singing, she developed a unique style and found the singing voice that was right for her.

[AyuRlz]

Originally Posted by Love Appears

I don't think she sounds "bad" in her old songs. Her voice has just matured and changed a lot. Back when she was 19-20, she hadn't had as much experience with singing. The only work she'd done before her first album was rapping. Her range wasn't as developed, and her voice was higher.

Once she had some songs behind her and got used to singing, she developed a unique style and found the singing voice that was right for her.

i think so too!

[bulmasman]

Personally i like her old voice more than the matured one she has now. ^_^

[Endlessoul]

Originally Posted by bulmasman

Personally i like her old voice more than the matured one she has now. ^_^

Totally agree!

[AyumiFanGuy]

I'm glad squeeky Ayu is gone, but HONEY was a nice touch of the old days, IMO.

I never thought Ayu had a "bad" voice, A Song for XX, LOVEppears and Duty are my personal favourite Ayu era's i think she was great back then
(not that she isn't great now)
I think that the squeeky voice was put on.

[sora-kara]

Her 'old' voice was completely untrained and nasal.
She sang with her nose, not her throat.
Now that she's learned to sing with her throat, she has a better range, tone and more power.

[FancySN]

Originally Posted by sora-kara

Her 'old' voice was completely untrained and nasal.
She sang with her nose, not her throat.
Now that she's learned to sing with her throat, she has a better range, tone and more power.

You're not supposed to sing from your throat. You're supposed to sing from your diaphragm.

Singing from your throat is bbaaaaadd. My vocal coach told me that Kelly Clarkson sang from her throat and look what happened to her--she lost her voice right after her first album and had to take a long break before her voice returned.

[sora-kara]

Originally Posted by FancySN

You're not supposed to sing from your throat. You're supposed to sing from your diaphragm.

Singing from your throat is bbaaaaadd. My vocal coach told me that Kelly Clarkson sang from her throat and look what happened to her--she lost her voice right after her first album and had to take a long break before her voice returned.

The air comes from your diapragm, but you can control your tone and vibrato with your throat.
In Ayumi's early days she was controlling her tone with her nose.
That's what I meant.

[ph33r]

Originally Posted by sora-kara

The air comes from your diapragm, but you can control your tone and vibrato with your throat.
In Ayumi's early days she was controlling her tone with her nose.
That's what I meant.

It's much easier to control your tone through your nose, and you also are able to sing with more air through your nose. You use your throat to control vibrato.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by sora-kara

Her 'old' voice was completely untrained and nasal.
She sang with her nose, not her throat.
Now that she's learned to sing with her throat, she has a better range, tone and more power.

Actually you are not supposed to sing from your throat. That is how Ayu sang before - from the throat and that can damage your vocal chords. You want to sing from your abdomen, through the diaphram and up. That's how Ayu sings now and explains why her voice has gotten a deeper fuller sound.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Actually you are not supposed to sing from your throat. That is how Ayu sang before - from the throat and that can damage your vocal chords. You want to sing from your abdomen, through the diaphram and up. That's how Ayu sings now and explains why her voice has gotten a deeper fuller sound.

that's true, you lose your voice SUPER easy when you sing with your voice, and i think that you have less range when you sing with your throat

a lot of her old music is like really high, it's funny when you listen to NOTHING FROM NOTHING, the chorus part sounds really mature, a different key maybe with lower notes?

how do you sing with your diaphram?

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by emikotogawa

a lot of her old music is like really high, it's funny when you listen to NOTHING FROM NOTHING, the chorus part sounds really mature, a different key maybe with lower notes?

how do you sing with your diaphram?

Yeah, NOTHING FROM NOTHING sounded beautiful, LIMIT also! How do you sing from your diaphragm? I joined the school choir team and was pestered to do that eventhough I couldnt..

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

Yeah, NOTHING FROM NOTHING sounded beautiful, LIMIT also! How do you sing from your diaphragm? I joined the school choir team and was pestered to do that eventhough I couldnt..

It's probably to difficult to explain through text. Really the only good way is to take a vocal technique class.

[DA1SUK1DAY01691]

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

Yeah, NOTHING FROM NOTHING sounded beautiful, LIMIT also! How do you sing from your diaphragm? I joined the school choir team and was pestered to do that eventhough I couldnt..

yeah, it sounds really good....

i read somewhere that you push the notes out, so i guess that's singing from your diaphragm??? instead of making the notes in your throat, you push it out from your stomach.

[voltron]

Originally Posted by sora-kara

Her 'old' voice was completely untrained and nasal.
She sang with her nose, not her throat.
Now that she's learned to sing with her throat, she has a better range, tone and more power.

Actually, before ASFXX she underwent extensive vocal training in New York, where they promoted her to use her higher register. That's why everything on ASFXX is so high pitched and screetchy sounding.

[elepop]

Her voice was not bad at all. She sounded great, but since her voice is softer now, it may sound bad. But her voice was much more powerful in the older days.

[Delirium-Zer0]

Not to mention she was offkey and weak sounding all the time... songs like "For My Dear" would have been SOOOOO so so so so SOOO much better if she sang them better! There's so much power in FMD that wants to come out but just can't because ayu's not delivering it properly I really wanted FMD to be re-recorded for A BEST but it didn't happen.

LOVEppears was a vast improvement over A Song for XX. I mean a BIG one. It's like it's not even the same person. She still had some problems live, but she improved even more for Duty and I am..., but took a step down when she started overdoing it with the vibrato on some songs on RAINBOW. She's improved even more since then, finding a nice balance. On the other hand, songs like HONEY, Greatful days, July 1st, etc. where she sounds more pop and does a higher voice, well, it just sounds forced now. It sounds like she's trying to imitate her LOVEppears voice but it certainly doesn't sound like it was recorded in 1999. She's overdoing it, and you can tell.

I think her voice sounds perfect in "Will" though. As a singer who's shown a pattern of improvement over the last 7 years, it's no surprise that her most recent song has her best vocals. In this case, though, they're jaw-dropping.

So yeah, her younger voice isn't nearly as good. (she sounds outright tone-deaf on alot of tracks, imho x_x) But she has DEFINITELY gotten better.

[kristen]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

Not to mention she was offkey and weak sounding all the time... songs like "For My Dear" would have been SOOOOO so so so so SOOO much better if she sang them better!

Oh i so agree.