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Old 4th October 2005, 05:16 AM
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Utada's sales not as good as ayu ?

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looks like UTADA is not selling as well as ayu ..
her 1st week sales for Be My Last is aroud 80.000 - 90.000 only
well maybe thats becoz only 1 track

but this means that ayu is selling around 40.000 last week =)
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Old 4th October 2005, 05:42 AM
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1 track with no instrumental, is it really worth the purchase? I guess that's the problem. + IMO, Be My Last doesn't sound too good. I don't like the chorus especially....
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Old 4th October 2005, 05:46 AM
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Well let's really think about it Be My last is one track while Heaven has more than one. You can't compare the sales at all with it.
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Old 4th October 2005, 06:36 AM
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Well let's really think about it Be My last is one track while Heaven has more than one. You can't compare the sales at all with it.
But a single is a single. Regardless how many tracks are on it.
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Old 4th October 2005, 06:14 AM
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I am actually quite surprised that Ayu is selling more than Utada, regardless if the single if the CDS only has 1 track.
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Old 4th October 2005, 06:46 AM
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I am actually quite surprised that Ayu is selling more than Utada, regardless if the single if the CDS only has 1 track.
Exactly. Dareka only had 1 track and the instrumental and sold better. So I don't think the 1 track thing is the major factor here. I like Be My Last (but I only really liked it after I saw the PV.) I just think Utada's popularity has suffered quite a bit. I mean what do you expect when you rarely ever tour or promote your singles, much less make many public appearances - I don't think it's very respectful of your fans and I've thought for the last few years now that Hikki could be doing a lot more instead of seemingly doing the minimum amount necassary to maintain her popularity. Just my observation.

Also, keep in mind that Be My Last is cheaper than the other singles out there. So it's not like people are paying 1,800 yen for 1 song. It's being sold for under 1,000 yen if I understand correctly.

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Old 4th October 2005, 02:51 PM
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Dareka only had 1 track and the instrumental and sold better. So I don't think the 1 track thing is the major factor here.
The only reason I would have bought the Be My Last single would have been for an instrumental track.
Seeing as it doesn't have that , why bother? The song will probably end up on an album of hers later on. I know a lot of people feel the same.

(if, for some reason, the track doesn't end up on an album, I'm sure a lot of people will go out and buy it. )
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Old 4th October 2005, 03:52 PM
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(if, for some reason, the track doesn't end up on an album, I'm sure a lot of people will go out and buy it. )
Yes, and isn't the song for a movie? I know that Drama songs released as singles sometimes never make it onto the artists' album. Couldn't it be the same for movie themes too?
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Old 4th October 2005, 05:00 PM
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Exactly. Dareka only had 1 track and the instrumental and sold better. So I don't think the 1 track thing is the major factor here.
I think it's a combination of the 1 track single + iTunes Japan (iTunes wasn't available when "Dareka..." came out last year). Like I said before, if one were given the option between paying 660 yen for a CD single with one song or paying 200 yen for that same one song on iTunes, I'd bet they'd go with iTunes... I'm assuming most of the 80K CD sales this past week came from the CD+DVD combo, seeing as that at least gave some incentive for people to purchase the physical thing...

I really wish there was a place where we could get iTunes/digital download figures... Someone mentioned "Be My Last" selling 250K, which would explain a lot...
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Old 4th October 2005, 01:22 PM
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I am actually quite surprised that Ayu is selling more than Utada, regardless if the single if the CDS only has 1 track.
yeah, same here...seems like utada always sells amazingly well regardless. i'm quite surprised by those sales stats, even if it is a 1 track only single.
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Old 4th October 2005, 06:48 AM
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SHE'S "TRYING TO PROMOTE HER ENGLISH ALBUM, COME ON NOW YA'LL!" bleh -_- Such an exscuse from people who haven't studied the industry. She's doing the minimal so she can live a normal life. Until she does something like the "USA TOUR" I don't think it'll be really..bleh...anyway it's not bad.
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Old 4th October 2005, 07:11 AM
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She's doing the minimal so she can live a normal life.
And I have no problem with that, so long as everyone doesn't expect her to sell very well.

And as for promoting her English album, I've never seen any promotion done for it outside of Japan and even the promotion there was minimal. If the only way that people are finding out information about this album is if they go directly to utada-online, then the promotion definitely isn't big enough.

Don't misunderstand and think I don't like Hikki. I DO. She was the first J-Pop artist that I really got into. I'm allowed to have an opinion on where her career is now though.

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Old 4th October 2005, 10:57 AM
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And I have no problem with that, so long as everyone doesn't expect her to sell very well.

And as for promoting her English album, I've never seen any promotion done for it outside of Japan and even the promotion there was minimal. If the only way that people are finding out information about this album is if they go directly to utada-online, then the promotion definitely isn't big enough.
I was actually really dissapointed in the lack of promotion for Hikki's English album. The only other promotion I saw other than what was on utada-online was her spot on MTV and the music video for Easy Breazy...and YMMWBAM...but that was it.
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Old 4th October 2005, 08:08 PM
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the music video for Easy Breazy...and YMMWBAM...but that was it.
Yeah, I never saw those music videos actually getting played anywhere though.
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Old 4th October 2005, 08:15 PM
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Yeah, I never saw those music videos actually getting played anywhere though.
same here...never saw easy breezy anywhere at all...i thought it was even hard to find on the net.
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Old 4th October 2005, 07:12 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, the majority of sales went to digital downloads since there was only one track... Which makes sense, cuz who'd pay 660 yen when you could get the one song for 200 yen off iTunes? Didn't someone post a figure of like 250,000 downloads so far for "Be My Last"?
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Old 7th October 2005, 04:07 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, the majority of sales went to digital downloads since there was only one track... Which makes sense, cuz who'd pay 660 yen when you could get the one song for 200 yen off iTunes? Didn't someone post a figure of like 250,000 downloads so far for "Be My Last"?
Ditto. 'Be My Last' is the most legally downloaded song in Japan ever and most of the people bought it from iTunes, because it's cheaper. I mean, the Be My Last single was just released so Hikki and Toshiba-EMI could get so money, don't think they were expecting too much from a one track single that you can buy cheaper on the internet. The single was kind of succeful, I mean, 250,000 downloads and japanese people are not even USED to download songs legally because iTunes were released for, like, two weeks..

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Old 4th October 2005, 07:35 AM
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outta point: who thinks that the part when utada goes "be my lastttt" sounds a bit like "donna toki deatte" from her previous song, hikari?

anyway, its not surprising utada isnt doing as well as ayu since it has only one track. mm.. but im surprised planeterium did better den heaven..
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Old 4th October 2005, 08:27 AM
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outta point: who thinks that the part when utada goes "be my lastttt" sounds a bit like "donna toki deatte" from her previous song, hikari?
If you're gonna say she's out of ideas, consider the similarities between HEAVEN and SEASONS chorus.. Then the ending of HANABI episode 2 and A SONG FOR XX.. Yeah, HIKKI SHOCKED ME.. Its 101000 copies only..
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Old 4th October 2005, 09:35 AM
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80,000 unites, not 100,000.

Well, atleast Hikki is still making money of digital sales... which is easier to get and quicker, so you can't say "she debuted at 350k"
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