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Old 9th November 2005, 09:49 AM
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Are fans not satisfied?

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Judging from all the people who hated all of Ayu's recent releases, I really want to ask people something. If she was to release a single or song that you completely ADORED in the past NOW, instead of back then, would you feel the same about it? It seems that many people believe that Ayu's stuck in a hole of crap music.. but.. I just don't get it. Would you feel the same if she released the songs she releases now back then? Just wondering~ :[

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Old 9th November 2005, 10:50 AM
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She is changing and people don't like it? I don't know, I don't think she'll ever be as good as she was when I Am... came out...after going up you have to come down?
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Old 10th November 2005, 12:13 AM
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She is changing and people don't like it? I don't know, I don't think she'll ever be as good as she was when I Am... came out...after going up you have to come down?
I think this album will come close to rivaling the power of her I am... album. The singles seem like such powerful songs and the album, unless she produces poor album tracks, will be unbelievable.
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:13 AM
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i like this song
i have no problems in her latest songs ..
until now, to be honest, i still dont like
trauma, WHATEVER and appears
afterall she cannot always stay on top forever ~
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:24 AM
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I loved her recent releases! I adored every new single or song more than the last one! I love her songs since "&" single even more than the "I am..." ones.... and I never thought that one day I will be saying such heretic words:

"Her new single is such a big disappointment that I want to cry"

OK, we haven't heard the full versions... but we heard a lot (over 2 minutes) version of "B&D" and 30+ seconds of the funeral song "Pride"... and I don;t really think the full versions will change much... I usually adored the previews of her songs even when listening to a 15s version of a cm...

And YES - I am NOT satisfied... I am buying this single only because I want to have them all... but I really am angry... :/
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:25 AM
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@ shisho dont call it B&D call it that==>Bold And Delicious

yes yes pride is like a funeral song


what comes up must come down the higher you go up the harder and faster the fall.... she stinks now her releases are kind of like a roller coaster sometimes it is good (heaven single) sometimes it is just plain terrible (e.g. this coming single bold&delicious/pride & the fairyland/alterna single)
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Old 12th November 2005, 03:59 AM
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@ shisho dont call it B&D call it that==>Bold And Delicious

the higher you go up the harder and faster the fall.... she stinks now her releases are kind of like a roller coaster sometimes it is good (heaven single) sometimes it is just plain terrible

completly agree with you.

Mikayuko is overreacting..... its not like "why they keep visiting the forum".

we r just talking about new releases. And yes, the song are getting more and more similar, boring. "RAINBOW" was Ayu´s limit, I think. I think that maybe, just maybe, if Avex didn´t expose her so much, with PVs, remixes (uncuntables bunches of remixes), her song would seem better now. But all she could do, she did. All styles she was into..... well.... and now where does she fit?

I like her... admire her, but talking about MUSIC, i think its over, and period.
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:27 AM
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I would have the same feelings for her music no matter when or what she releases cause I find her music interesting no matter how much it can suck for others ^^
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I would have the same feelings for her music no matter when or what she releases cause I find her music interesting no matter how much it can suck for others ^^
I am the same. She is one of the only artists that I like thar I can confidently say that I have never heard a song by that I disliked. I love Ayu.
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:32 AM
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am I thwe only one who sees the progress ayu has made????

There are 3 types of ppl in this:

1. Those who Think that since RAINBOW her career is over (I don't know why the keep visithing the forum)

2. Those who still worhsip her

3.Those who think She's Getting better (me alone)

I think this lines can be seen now more than ever. I don't care what others think cuase most of them are either against it or with it andwhen they don't like 1 release or song or single or whatever is the end of the world they overreact.
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Old 10th November 2005, 04:49 AM
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am I thwe only one who sees the progress ayu has made????

There are 3 types of ppl in this:

1. Those who Think that since RAINBOW her career is over (I don't know why the keep visithing the forum)

2. Those who still worhsip her

3.Those who think She's Getting better (me alone)

I think this lines can be seen now more than ever. I don't care what others think cuase most of them are either against it or with it andwhen they don't like 1 release or song or single or whatever is the end of the world they overreact.
I'll join you! I don't see why people hate her new releases. She's always trying something new, so give her a chance, because I know almost all of you wouldn't be able to have success on a new song or like a new topic for writing. You will never be the best on your first try, you'll always have faults. It's just Ayu doesn't have as much faults as some of us do.

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A negative will look at the product, and focus on the bad.
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Old 13th November 2005, 02:05 AM
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am I thwe only one who sees the progress ayu has made????

There are 3 types of ppl in this:

1. Those who Think that since RAINBOW her career is over (I don't know why the keep visithing the forum)

2. Those who still worhsip her

3.Those who think She's Getting better (me alone)

I think this lines can be seen now more than ever. I don't care what others think cuase most of them are either against it or with it andwhen they don't like 1 release or song or single or whatever is the end of the world they overreact.
No, no, you're not alone^^ I think she's getting better, too. Mostly I like the new singles more than the old ones
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Old 13th November 2005, 02:09 AM
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No, no, you're not alone^^ I think she's getting better, too. Mostly I like the new singles more than the old ones
#2 and 3 applies me ^^
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Old 13th November 2005, 06:04 PM
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There are 3 types of ppl in this:
There are more types of people than that.

Me for example. 'A Song for XX' to 'I am...' are really good. 'RAINBOW' is not as good, but still has plenty of good, stand-out tracks. 'Memorial address' is a masterpiece, one of Ayu's best. 'MY STORY' is about 90% good.

And now onto this year. I loved 'STEP you'. 'Is this LOVE?' was pretty good. 'fairyland' has grown on me but still isn't very good. 'alterna' is quite good. 'HEAVEN' is ok. 'WILL' is bad. 'B.A.D' is just awful.

As you can see, it's a song-to-song thing with me. Sometimes Ayumi goes up, sometimes she goes way down. And I'm sure most of the people who seem like total "haters" since the 'B.A.D' PV like plenty of Ayumi's good music.

Just because someone hates one song, doesn't mean they completely hate Ayu. They may just have lost all respect for her at the moment for making 'B.A.D' at all (Me included), but many will still enjoy her new album.

And depth I could care less about, as Ayumi is a popstar, and it's not unexpected that several of her songs/PVs are/will be pointless and fun.

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Old 16th November 2005, 06:43 AM
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Just because someone hates one song, doesn't mean they completely hate Ayu. They may just have lost all respect for her at the moment for making 'B.A.D' at all (Me included), but many will still enjoy her new album.

And depth I could care less about, as Ayumi is a popstar, and it's not unexpected that several of her songs/PVs are/will be pointless and fun.

that;s what i'm saying too...(at t-n) her music is supposed to be funand pointless if you want... but there are a lot of extreme ppl saying like.. ''OMG B.A.D. is sooooo aweful!! she's defenittly going down!'' this kind of comments are funny...

I understand that not everyone has to like everything ayu does... and that maybe not everything ayu touches turns gold (as I once said a loooooong time ago n_n) but why being so critical about pop music to the point that you get all mad and grumpy?? haha these ppl may not be freaky-ayu-fans that like evrything ayu does, but they are certainly freaky in other ways

you just have to like the music and feel it n_n it's just pop music n_n
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As you can see, it's a song-to-song thing with me. Sometimes Ayumi goes up, sometimes she goes way down. And I'm sure most of the people who seem like total "haters" since the 'B.A.D' PV like plenty of Ayumi's good music...

Just because someone hates one song, doesn't mean they completely hate Ayu. ...

I'm the same, it's song-to-song thing with me. Certain songs this year I loved, others I definitely did not, however, I don't hate Ayu just because she brought out a few songs this year that I didn't care for. If I really don't like something, I will express it, which does not make me a complainer. If someone doesn't like a song they should be able to express that, otherwise this place would end up like another forum I go to - where you can't express a proper criticism without being jumped on and being told you're not a real fan or that you're just giving up because you don't like one song... it's awful when places become like that and I wouldn't like AHS to become like that. Some people just overreact to every little negative comment and don't look at the comments objectively and see the difference between someone who just doesn't like a song and someone who is not happy with anything - to them there is no difference, they should try to be a bit more objective and not attack anyone without understanding what they're saying first.
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:33 AM
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I would have the same feelings for her music no matter when or what she releases cause I find her music interesting no matter how much it can suck for others ^^
Before the previews for the new single appeared I would have said the same thing....
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^lol I´m still saying the same

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Old 9th November 2005, 11:36 AM
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There are 3 types of ppl in this:
Then I am 4th type:

4. The person who loves Ayu blindly and worshipes every song she have ever done... and a person who is shocked like hell with the quality of the new "MY GOD WHY ARE YOU RELEASING THIS AYU?!" single...

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PS. I just realized that my avatar shows exactly how my world is crushing after hearing the previews of the single...
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^that´s sad to hear =(=( but nobody is perfect so just have patience and you´ll get awarded ^^
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