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Old 9th December 2007, 05:22 AM
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Ayu's lives sounds flat?

I really don't know much about the fundamentals of singing. But hasn't Ayu's live performances sound flat to you guys? Like she can't hit all the notes like the actual recording soundtrack?

I don't know. Recently she sings a lot lower. I can live with that. But now I feel like she can't even hit the notes right and it comes out all...funky. While in the past her vibrato was soft, now it's really hard and a bit over exaggerated. (is that how a vibrato suppose to sound???) I can't appreciate much of her lives anymore. I love her recordings but find that I can't listen to her lives, which is really sad.

Anyone else feel the same? Maybe just me...

Still can't wait for the upcoming album tho!
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Old 9th December 2007, 05:33 AM
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maybe she's just too emotional?
yea, i also felt that her lives recently for Together When... on the high notes, she sounded off key..but quite ok..
and i still think her vibra is still OK..
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Old 9th December 2007, 05:35 AM
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not every live is perfect, you know -.-;


though i don't think her vibratos should be that loud. live or recording.
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Old 9th December 2007, 07:02 AM
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not every live is perfect, you know -.-;
Pretty much. I liked most of her performances and they sounded pretty close to the studio version. At least she didn't lipsynch.
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Old 12th December 2007, 11:32 PM
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not every live is perfect, you know -.-;


though i don't think her vibratos should be that loud. live or recording.
Yeah but Ayu's been doing bad consistently this year. I've tried to think up every excuse I can for Ayu but when it all comes down to it I think it's just that Ayu is not quite the singer she used to be (and please don't 'duh' me because not all of you are noticing this). Yes, there where times when she struggled in the past...but at least she had a lot of good performances as well. But now, she's almost always off-key and her vibrato is over-used. It's almost as if her voice is nothing BUT vibrato. And not only that she tends to yell when she projects on the chorus parts. She's had a couple OK performances but for the most part Ayu has been having a bad year.
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Old 9th December 2007, 05:39 AM
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Perhaps she has developed 2 different singing styles?
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Old 9th December 2007, 05:44 AM
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Together When at Music Station was the worst! I couldn't even finish watching the live because of how flat the song became. Maybe her earphones weren't loud enough or something because I felt that she had to strain to hit those high notes (even though they aren't even really that high).
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Old 9th December 2007, 06:09 AM
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Ayu's live performance are always crappy unless they're released on DVD by avex so they have time to be altered.
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Old 9th December 2007, 06:13 AM
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Ayu's live performance are always crappy unless they're released on DVD by avex so they have time to be altered.
Go see her live for real, before you say that.
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Old 9th December 2007, 06:46 AM
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Go see her live for real, before you say that.
indeed. ASIA TOUR was flawless when i saw her. was pretty amazed. perhaps the song made so emo that she cant sing properly.
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Old 9th December 2007, 12:26 PM
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indeed. ASIA TOUR was flawless when i saw her. was pretty amazed. perhaps the song made so emo that she cant sing properly.
Really?? Where did you watch the ASIA TOUR video?
well, imo, she's not the best live singer, her voice is sometimes un-control, but it's better sing live than lip-sync...
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Old 9th December 2007, 02:36 PM
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Really?? Where did you watch the ASIA TOUR video?
well, imo, she's not the best live singer, her voice is sometimes un-control, but it's better sing live than lip-sync...
she meant that she saw ayu singing live on her asia tour concert..

and yea me too. she sang great in her tour..i attended her asia tour concert too and i sat quite near to loudspeaker..so kinda heard her voice pretty clearly..
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Old 9th December 2007, 04:33 PM
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Most of the time, Ayu can't hit the high notes but I think it's normal. On recordings, she gets to have more than 1 chance to hit the note. Ayu isn't exactly the greatest singer and she doesn't have the strongest voice. I think she still manages to pull it off quite well depending on the songs. Songs like "Voyage" and "RAINBOW" are good for her. They really show her soft beautiful voice. "Close to you" also. But with songs like "TW..." that has a lot of low and high notes, it can be difficult.

I agree with some that Ayu shouldn't sing such loud vibrato though. It gets annoying at times and she does it with all of her songs lately.

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Ayu's live performance are always crappy unless they're released on DVD by avex so they have time to be altered.
Sounds like someone needs to go check Ayu's "forgiveness" performance @ MS.
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Old 13th December 2007, 12:18 AM
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Most of the time, Ayu can't hit the high notes but I think it's normal. On recordings, she gets to have more than 1 chance to hit the note. Ayu isn't exactly the greatest singer and she doesn't have the strongest voice. I think she still manages to pull it off quite well depending on the songs. Songs like "Voyage" and "RAINBOW" are good for her. They really show her soft beautiful voice. "Close to you" also. But with songs like "TW..." that has a lot of low and high notes, it can be difficult.

I agree with some that Ayu shouldn't sing such loud vibrato though. It gets annoying at times and she does it with all of her songs lately.



Sounds like someone needs to go check Ayu's "forgiveness" performance @ MS.
Someone needs to listen to the TV versions of her concerts vs the DVD versions. The editing they do on her voice is somewhat embaressing on her part.
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Old 13th December 2007, 02:15 AM
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Someone needs to listen to the TV versions of her concerts vs the DVD versions. The editing they do on her voice is somewhat embaressing on her part.
Sincerely her TV performances aren't the same as before I don't want to think that her DVDs are edited (Including a-nation) but there is a big difference between TV and DVD performances...

Btw I love the loud vibrato thing
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Old 13th December 2007, 03:40 AM
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Someone needs to listen to the TV versions of her concerts vs the DVD versions. The editing they do on her voice is somewhat embaressing on her part.
Yeah but I was at her concert, and it was fine.

The TV versions will always suffer no matter what.

Concert Speaker->Recording Mic-> Your Speakers -> Your Ears

DVD:
Direct Audio -> Your Speakers -> Ears!

I'm sure they do some editing, but I guess I can't say how bad it can be. All I know was that her concert was very good for the most part (minus Secret).
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Old 13th December 2007, 03:47 AM
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Yeah but I was at her concert, and it was fine.

The TV versions will always suffer no matter what.

Concert Speaker->Recording Mic-> Your Speakers -> Your Ears

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Direct Audio -> Your Speakers -> Ears!

I'm sure they do some editing, but I guess I can't say how bad it can be. All I know was that her concert was very good for the most part (minus Secret).
Exactly. Audio suffers when it's live feed, there are many things to consider in audio which can be handled later when the dvd is being produced and not on the spot, as to lowering audience noice, hall echo, etc. That said, I'm sure they touch up her voice for the dvd, but not to the point where it's not her anymore.
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Old 9th December 2007, 06:12 AM
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Maybe her new singing style. Like her new voice lol (tlakin' 2 myself).
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Old 9th December 2007, 07:06 AM
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I love when she does bold and delicious live!
She really doesnt even have to sing that song!
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Old 9th December 2007, 07:07 AM
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as long as she doesn't lip sync, i'm completely fine with how she is live.
like someone previously said, not every live is perfect.
imagine having to perform the same [emotional] song over and over and over again.
don't you think it'd lose it's emotion and sound sometimes? ^^
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