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Old 2nd June 2008, 07:31 PM
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Memorial Address - Ayu's Mom?

Anyone else think this is possible?
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Old 2nd June 2008, 07:35 PM
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Uhm no.
As far as I know her mom is still alive.
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Old 2nd June 2008, 07:39 PM
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She is?

I thought it might be because she stopped singing asfxx in AT03-04, and in an old interview she said she'd sing that song so that the person who it was for (Mariko Hamasaki) would hear it... and teddy bear is sung before, which is for Ayu's father, right?
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Old 2nd June 2008, 07:45 PM
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She is?

I thought it might be because she stopped singing asfxx in AT03-04, and in an old interview she said she'd sing that song so that the person who it was for (Mariko Hamasaki) would hear it... and teddy bear is sung before, which is for Ayu's father, right?
It was her grandmother who passed, not her mother. And yes, teddy bear is for her father, and so is Memorial Address, because her father also passed away. If you look on the inside booklet where Ayu is laying with the mirror, there's a date written in lipsick, that's the date her father passed away.
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It was her grandmother who passed, not her mother. And yes, teddy bear is for her father, and so is Memorial Address, because her father also passed away. If you look on the inside booklet where Ayu is laying with the mirror, there's a date written in lipsick, that's the date her father passed away.
Was'nt that mirror thing a rumor?
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Old 2nd June 2008, 07:52 PM
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To me, Memorial Address is a song about a man that left her. When I listen to it, she sounds angry and hurt, so when I listen to it I think she's talking about a past lover or something along those lines...

But if it was about her father, I guess it makes sense too...
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Old 2nd June 2008, 07:51 PM
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and so is Memorial Address, because her father also passed away. If you look on the inside booklet where Ayu is laying with the mirror, there's a date written in lipsick, that's the date her father passed away.
are there any source of that? never heard that her father had died, only that he left Ayu's family and then no one knew about him.
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Old 2nd June 2008, 07:52 PM
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I thought that Memorial Address was dedicated to her father o_o

on the subject of family members is it true that her grandma died around the release of poker face, which is a reason why she doesn't like the song?
According to wiki.theppn, yes.

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It was her grandmother who passed, not her mother. And yes, teddy bear is for her father, and so is Memorial Address, because her father also passed away. If you look on the inside booklet where Ayu is laying with the mirror, there's a date written in lipsick, that's the date her father passed away.
I believe her father walked away when she was 2 years old and I read in some interview that she "never cared where her father was"
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I believe she also wrote Who... for her father. But I'm not quite sure.
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I believe she also wrote Who... for her father. But I'm not quite sure.
Who... was for her grandmother! O_O
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Who... was for her grandmother! O_O
I rmb i read somewhere that the song Who... was written for her boyfriend Tomoya Nagase at that time!

oh gosh.. so which songs are for whom? ?_?
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Old 3rd June 2008, 04:36 PM
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Who... was for her grandmother! O_O
oops...

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She did, however, suspect she was spending time with him at the seaport where she came often as a child. She went fishing with a man and she remembered having a lot of fishing tools in her home. That might have been a way for her dad to spend time with her, when he couldn't as her dad for some reasons we don't know.
I never heard of it.

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A Song for XX = Ayu's mother
teddy bear = Ayu's father
Memorial address = Ayu's father
Who... = Ayu's grandmother
ever free = Ayu's grandmother


That's how I heard it, anyway. And I was sure she said, along the words of that it didn't matter to her where he was, that she really wasn't entirely sure if he's even alive or not. So it's possible that he is alive.

As for the 0630 thing, I've heard rumors that this was when he left her or because that was the date before July 1st. I don't think anyone (outside of Ayu's life) really knows.
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Oh, it's in the NTV interview documentary. They take her back to Fukuoka and she shows them places where she grew up. One of them is a port in the city and it goes:

Ayu: Yea, I often came here. The old boats are still here. I can't remember which one I went fishing with. These things happened in my childhood. It is so obscure, but I think he should be my father.

Interviewer: Is he really your father?

Ayu: I think so, there were many fishing tools in my home, they were kept all along.
So, she never knew herself?

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She wrote A Song for XX for her father.
I believe she wrote it mother.
Though the "XX" isn't pronounced, I heard someone say on this forum that each woman has two X chromosons (XX) and that men have XY. I dunno if he/she is right though... I only heard it.
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Old 3rd June 2008, 05:07 PM
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Memorial Address...I think it was for her dad...

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I believe she wrote it mother.
Though the "XX" isn't pronounced, I heard someone say on this forum that each woman has two X chromosons (XX) and that men have XY. I dunno if he/she is right though... I only heard it.
That person is right. Women have 2 X Chromosomes, and men have XY.

But I think the X's stand for anonymous. But thats what I think.
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Old 3rd June 2008, 10:46 PM
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So, she never knew herself?
I guess it's up to the viewer to intepret, since that's all she says about it.

He left her at young age, for reasons we don't know. Maybe he still wanted to see her, so he came back later in her childhood and went fishing with her, without telling her he was her dad. She wouldn't be able to recognize him because he left when she was very young. But she still suspected it because of the fishing tools in her home.

It could also be that she wanted him to be her dad, if she liked him. Like she imagined that's what he'd be like.
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Who... was for her grandmother! O_O

I thought Who... was for her fans lol
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I believe she also wrote Who... for her father. But I'm not quite sure.
She wrote A Song for XX for her father.
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She wrote A Song for XX for her father.
Is that so? I always heard part of it was addressed to her mother.. or was that just a rumor?
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Old 4th June 2008, 04:57 PM
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Is that so? I always heard part of it was addressed to her mother.. or was that just a rumor?
i think the re-recorded version had slightly changed lyrics that were directed at her mother... i think. =|
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Old 4th June 2008, 05:33 PM
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^Didn't ayu say in the All Night Nippon interview that "A Song for XX" is about her mother? I think she did. And she also said that people can put whatever they want in place for "XX". Maybe she wants the listeners to put as "XX" whatever they relate the song to.
As to her changing the lyrics of "A Song for XX", maybe she was too shy to address the person directly while writing the lyrics? Or maybe she did notice only afterwards that she wasn't talking about people around her, but this one particular person?

And I think saying things like "obviously" etc. isn't often appropriate. Because as long as we don't know what ayu herself thought or felt while making a song, we can only make assumptions. Maybe some songs were written about a particular person, but it has become universal afterwards. Just because she changes "you (kimi, anata)" to "you all (minna)" doesn't necessarily mean it was meant to be like this from the start. Otherwise she probably would have written "you all (minna)" to begin with, wouldn't she?
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