NEXT LEVEL CD2 (CDL 08-09)

rainydayumi · #1 2nd April 2010, 06:24 AM

did anybody listen to this? is it even really live? it sounds like prerecorded vocals covered with sounds from the audience. did ayu sing the concert live or was it a lip-syncing performance?

WARNING: this is not to discuss whether or not lip syncing is good or bad, so please keep that out of this thread.

jbrat2219 · #2 2nd April 2010, 06:30 AM

It was live, she was on drugs, maybe she needs to be on them more often lol.

nanakopy87 · #3 2nd April 2010, 06:30 AM

errr.its really from the concert.
and,i believe she did lip syncing part of the concert.and of course she do sing live in some songs like who...

benslave4u · #4 2nd April 2010, 06:31 AM

oh if I remember she did lip sync some songs for the PCDL~ Especially Angley's Song... she was even caught on the tv broadcast version! But I don't think the Next Level Version sounds lip synced... she even went off notes with some of the song~ Yeah that's not the greatest argument but I actually thought the NL version had very weak recording sound compare to the DVD

HarukaKamiya · #5 2nd April 2010, 06:34 AM

It's definitely live. The audience was not "placed" there. There is a definite difference between Ayu's studio voice, and Ayu's live voice.

This particular live? Maybe it sounds too good to be true for you, but if you watch the actual concert the audio this disc was from, you'll have a better experience (and far more appreciation of Ayu singing live).

rainydayumi · #6 2nd April 2010, 06:36 AM

for example Days and Green, they were too perfect to be sung live! i thought ayu always jumped around and did fancy things while singing, so should she at least be gasping for hair at some point in the song??

GRACE · #7 2nd April 2010, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaRatZi

for example Days and Green, they were too perfect to be sung live! i thought ayu always jumped around and did fancy things while singing, so should she at least be gasping for hair at some point in the song??

Did you... watch Days and GREEN? She stood in one place the whole time she sang those songs.

JinHamasaki · #8 2nd April 2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaRatZi

for example Days and Green, they were too perfect to be sung live! i thought ayu always jumped around and did fancy things while singing, so should she at least be gasping for hair at some point in the song??

Erm, she really didn't perform much for those songs in particular. ANGEL'S SONG ->yes she jumped and pranced around. For Days she just stood there.

IMHO I think the CD is more raw (i.e., less processed) than the DVD.

HarukaKamiya · #9 2nd April 2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaRatZi

for example Days and Green, they were too perfect to be sung live! i thought ayu always jumped around and did fancy things while singing, so should she at least be gasping for hair at some point in the song??

Jumping around and doing fancy things during THOSE two songs? Uh. Those songs are slow paced, and don't require any jumping around or fancy gesticulations or dance moves for them to be conveyed to the audience.

love in music · #10 2nd April 2010, 06:36 AM

The only song we know for sure isn't live from that CDL is ANGEL'S SONG, and that wasn't put on the CD.

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Originally Posted by PaPaRatZi

for example Days and Green, they were too perfect to be sung live! i thought ayu always jumped around and did fancy things while singing, so should she at least be gasping for hair at some point in the song??

I thought she sounded good in GREEN, but Days was really bad imo and sounds very live to me lol

nanakopy87 · #11 2nd April 2010, 06:42 AM

o.O she's jumping and running in independant and some other fast songs but she didn't move so actively in days and green!
i believe she DO lipsync at least 30% of the whole concert

GRACE · #12 2nd April 2010, 06:43 AM

tbh, the songs on the CD are the ones she actually sang, and the ones left off the CD are the ones she lipped =/ (which is completely forgivable, since she had just broken her hand and was on drugs and probably in some pain, she didn't need the added stress of singing all the songs in that ridiculously long concert)

nanakopy87 · #13 2nd April 2010, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GRACE

tbh, the songs on the CD are the ones she actually sang, and the ones left off the CD are the ones she lipped =/ (which is completely forgivable, since she had just broken her hand and was on drugs and probably in some pain, she didn't need the added stress of singing all the songs in that ridiculously long concert)

yes.i agree with you,grace.

love in music · #14 2nd April 2010, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GRACE

tbh, the songs on the CD are the ones she actually sang, and the ones left off the CD are the ones she lipped =/ (which is completely forgivable, since she had just broken her hand and was on drugs and probably in some pain, she didn't need the added stress of singing all the songs in that ridiculously long concert)

Ok, I refuse to believe all of these were lipped:

SURREAL~evolution~SURREAL
Who...
Trauma
independent
flower garden
Boys & Girls
MY ALL
+

do you really think so?

nanakopy87 · #15 2nd April 2010, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by identity

Ok, I refuse to believe all of these were lipped:

SURREAL~evolution~SURREAL
Who...
Trauma
independent
flower garden
Boys & Girls
MY ALL
+

do you really think so?

i think she do sing live for the songs you listed.i suspect angel's song(this is 100% lip sync),Real me,And Then,Naturally are lip sync
paparatzi,i recommend you to download the TV broadcast and watch it.then listen to the CD again and then only watch the PCDL DVD.

rainydayumi · #16 2nd April 2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nanakopy87

i think she do sing live for the songs you listed.i suspect angel's song(this is 100% lip sync),Real me,And Then,Naturally are lip sync
paparatzi,i recommend you to download the TV broadcast and watch it.then listen to the CD again and then only watch the PCDL DVD.

good point! i believe the DVD version will be edited? are the vocals in her concert DVDs the same in the broadcasts or different?

rainydayumi · #17 2nd April 2010, 07:00 AM

wow, in that case im really impressed! because green and days were really really good! they were almost like cd quality!

i didnt watch the concert, i havent got the DVD

im waiting for it. im dissapointed she juststood there and sung green.. its such a dramatic song, i thought shed have nice choreography (like in the pv)

love in music · #18 2nd April 2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaRatZi

wow, in that case im really impressed! because green and days were really really good! they were almost like cd quality!

i didnt watch the concert, i havent got the DVD

im waiting for it. im dissapointed she juststood there and sung green.. its such a dramatic song, i thought shed have nice choreography (like in the pv)

Well actually she did dance with Maro in GREEN. Her dancing is a lot better than it is in the PV too.

truehappiness · #19 2nd April 2010, 07:16 AM

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good point! i believe the DVD version will be edited? are the vocals in her concert DVDs the same in the broadcasts or different?

For the most part they're the same. But for some songs, they're miraculously better.

Who... for instance sounds the same in the TV version as in the DVD...

But like... SURREAL at CDL07-08 on TV and on DVD were completely different.

Crystal_Ageha · #20 2nd April 2010, 07:20 AM

The CD is definitely live, and I personally believe they are not lip-synced. (The only one we have proof for is ANGEL'S SONG, but that was obvious even without the visual screw-up, lol.

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No doubt they touched up the vocals at least a little, though, even if it was only to make the audio more crisp. They always do, be it a live DVD or a live CD (or, obviously, any regular CD).