[TeamAyu] She just got married.. again.

[NintendoHTF1242]

I wonder how he's gonna feel re-watching the video a few years from now when he owns his own doctor clinic lol

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by primavera♥

This video. If it were a big problem, it would have blown up earlier. I recall it being brought up before I thought too.

Oh. I have no idea when it came out or if she really cares, I was just joking.

[waterballoon]

who cares how douche it was

HE'S SO HOT YOU GO GURL

[SilverOwl]

Originally Posted by happiholic★

It was rumored that the real reason Ayu divorced Mannie was that photobook. Perhaps any form of media that she deems sub-par to her own work as ground for divorce. If that's the case, it was nice not knowing you, Mr. Hamasaki-Bodkin.

Seriously, though. I read somewhere that he also changed his name on Facebook to Whatever-His-First-Name-Is Hamasaki Bodkin. That is pretty cute. I wonder if its legal or just them being cute?

really? I don't think it's cute, I think its emasculating, kind of the sort of thing a rich widows toy boy would do no offence, just my opinion

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

really? I don't think it's cute, I think its emasculating, kind of the sort of thing a rich widows toy boy would do no offence, just my opinion

Nah, no offence taken, you are totally entitled to your opinion. And honestly, I wouldn't want my husband to take my last name. Like, not even a little. It's cute for Ayu and her hubby, but not for me.

[mi|kshake]

So that's where that screencap came from!

I don't see anything wrong with the video - it's just a fun video lots of young people post nowadays. OK I don't really see the point in it myself (must be an inside joke?) but it's not offensive.

Boys just wanna have fun!

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

really? I don't think it's cute, I think its emasculating, kind of the sort of thing a rich widows toy boy would do no offence, just my opinion

A woman adopting her husband's name is totally fine and the right thing to do but a man adopting the name of his wife literally cuts his penis off?
That's totally sexist and I'm sorry, but sexism isn't an opinion.

A big pop star marries a man who will never be able to achieve what she did and both adopt the last name of their marriage partner: THAT is real equality between a man and a woman who don't give a fuck about social conventions and just love each other.

AHS really pisses me off sometimes. -.-

[Tom Punks]

^ I agree. The notion that him adopting his wife's last name = emasculating is sexist. IMO.

[NintendoHTF1242]

Y'all are for real fighting over him changing his last name on FACBEOOK. Get your lives together.

[orangeakira]

Who changed what? I am so not caught up on this whole husband #2 thing. Is he now Josh Hamasaki? Cause that's what I would do. hehe I'd change my last name to my super pop star singer spouse. His name is Josh right? God I am so behind on this...

[pheonixflame15]

I thought his name was Tyson?

[orangeakira]

^Probably. I was looking at that sausage fest video someone put up a few pages back and it was uploaded by "jOSH bLACKMAN". I think that's the account name. Someone said the video was directed by her husband so I guess I automatically assumed that was his name.

[Machiko]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

A woman adopting her husband's name is totally fine and the right thing to do but a man adopting the name of his wife literally cuts his penis off?
That's totally sexist and I'm sorry, but sexism isn't an opinion.

A big pop star marries a man who will never be able to achieve what she did and both adopt the last name of their marriage partner: THAT is real equality between a man and a woman who don't give a fuck about social conventions and just love each other.

AHS really pisses me off sometimes. -.-

Amen 100%.

[emi♡]

lulz yeah, it's sexist if you go and force it on everyone.

But people are entitled to their opinions and preferences in their own lives. I don't really care for my partner to adopt my name either because I tend to be traditional, and it's also somewhat emasculating to me too.

I dont really give a fuck what ayu or anyone else does tho lol Or what their versions of masculine are ;P

[orangeakira]

If my love's last name was better than mine. I'd take their name. There was this guy I really liked years ago who I worked with whose last name is "hamberger". I was thinking to myself. "Damn if I was in his shoes I'd change my last name during marriage cause I'd hate to be "Mr. Hamberger". haha" So yeah. For me it depends.

[pimenta]

Originally Posted by esprit85

I just found this video:

http://vimeo.com/groups/thedirectoro...ideos/15449630

Can't hear anything, just watch at the moment, but isn't it her husband?

OMG


I think it's nice he changed his last name on facebook to add hers and I don't get why the hell are people making that a big deal... What's the problem with a married couple wanting to add each others last names to their own? Seriously people...

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by emi♡

lulz yeah, it's sexist if you go and force it on everyone.

But people are entitled to their opinions and preferences in their own lives. I don't really care for my partner to adopt my name either because I tend to be traditional, and it's also somewhat emasculating to me too.

I dont really give a fuck what ayu or anyone else does tho lol Or what their versions of masculine are ;P

I don't care if you or happiholic★ don't want your partners to adopt your last names. It's your life girls and just do whatever makes you happy.

But I do care if someone like SilverOwl comes here and judges Ayu and her husband for the choice to adopt each other's last name. Someone just said that it's cute they did that and SilverOwl has nothing better to do than to jump in and to say it's not with a total sexist argument. If happiholic★ says "It's cute for Ayu and her hubby, but not for me" that's fine, she just stated she wouldn't do it but doesn't care if others do. SilverOwl on the contrary wasn't talking about herself/himself, she/he was judging someone she/he doesn't even know.

[SilverOwl]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

I don't care if you or happiholic★ don't want your partners to adopt your last names. It's your life girls and just do whatever makes you happy.

But I do care if someone like SilverOwl comes here and judges Ayu and her husband for the choice to adopt each other's last name. Someone just said that it's cute they did that and SilverOwl has nothing better to do than to jump in and to say it's not with a total sexist argument. If happiholic★ says "It's cute for Ayu and her hubby, but not for me" that's fine, she just stated she wouldn't do it but doesn't care if others do. SilverOwl on the contrary wasn't talking about herself/himself, she/he was judging someone she/he doesn't even know.

What the hell! For one I'm a she. For second I was NOT judging Ayu or her husband. I do find it emasculating. If someone else finds it cute that's fine. It does remind me of something a rich widows toy boy would do, I didn't call Ayu's hubby a rich widows toy boy, I actually happen to like him, he seems like a good natured sort with a good sense of fun.

When the hell did it become a sexist argument? It was one sentence and you go attacking me like I'm waving an anti equality flag. It was an opinion, I just like things more traditional. At least ask me what I meant before you attack me.

I wouldn't like my guy to take my name, I would find it awkward. It was a general opinion. I never said that guy is emasculating himself and he is a rich widows toy boy. I was not judging anyone. Don't go jumping down my throat.

Did you think I was some sweaty guy sitting behind a computer screen thinking woman should be tied to a kitchen sink, trust me, I' am very, very serious on women's rights.

I understand that you found my words upsetting but next time ask me what I mean, have a go and say, are you being sexist or what? Don't just assume.

Jeez, I leave and come back to find myself being blasted for a harmless comment on a harmless subject.

You are completely singling me out, emi also finds it emasculating but I'm the one you shoot? I'm sorry you got upset by it, but next time ask me, don't stab me in the eye!

[orangeakira]

so does that mean that by a woman taking her husband's last name, it's de-feminizing?

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

What the hell! For one I'm a she.

That's why I wrote she/he.

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

For second I was NOT judging Ayu or her husband.

You did.

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

I do find it emasculating. If someone else finds it cute that's fine. It does remind me of something a rich widows toy boy would do, I didn't call Ayu's hubby a rich widows toy boy, I actually happen to like him, he seems like a good natured sort with a good sense of fun.

You did say he is emasculating himself and you also did call him a rich widows toy boy. In your post you directly referred to Ayu and her husband, and said you think it's emasculating and something a rich widows toy boy would do. Your "opinion" wasn't referring just to yourself and what you would do. You made a general statement about people.

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

When the hell did it become a sexist argument? It was one sentence and you go attacking me like I'm waving an anti equality flag. It was an opinion, I just like things more traditional. At least ask me what I meant before you attack me.

It ALWAYS was a sexist argument and you ARE waving an anti equality flag.
Just for your knowledge: the reason why women were adopting the last name of their husband was (and somehow still is) that women were the property of their fathers but with marriage they became the property of their husbands. People just think it's emasculating because by adopting their wifes last name men show that they give a fuck about traditional maculinity and gender roles and that they don't need to be the head of their household.

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

I wouldn't like my guy to take my name, I would find it awkward. It was a general opinion. I never said that guy is emasculating himself and he is a rich widows toy boy. I was not judging anyone. Don't go jumping down my throat.

Again, you said that.

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

Did you think I was some sweaty guy sitting behind a computer screen thinking woman should be tied to a kitchen sink, trust me, I' am very, very serious on women's rights.

Eeerrrr, no. Again, I wrote she/he because I didn't knew and I also wasn't assuming anything. You don't need to be "some sweaty guy sitting behind a computer screen" to be sexist. An average normal girl can be as sexist as everyone else. And anyone who would be serious about women's rights wouldn't find it emasculating if a man adopts the name of his wife.

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

I understand that you found my words upsetting but next time ask me what I mean, have a go and say, are you being sexist or what? Don't just assume.

No, if you don't want to be attacked just don't make sexist comments and reflect upon what you wrote BEFORE posting.

Originally Posted by SilverOwl

Jeez, I leave and come back to find myself being blasted for a harmless comment on a harmless subject.

You are completely singling me out, emi also finds it emasculating but I'm the one you shoot? I'm sorry you got upset by it, but next time ask me, don't stab me in the eye!

Sexism NEVER is a harmless subject.
But if other women I just know from a forum, and therefore just by a few posts they wrote, like conservative norms for themselves which I consider sexist I would never tell them to change their lifes or to feel different about this subject. As long as they aren't generalizing anything and just talk about themselves it's totally fine with me. Neither emi nor happyholic were generalizing and just speaking for themselves - in contrast to you.