Did Ayu go into a plastic surgery during her stay in Hawaii?? - Page 6

Chef+Vanny · #**101** 21st March 2009, 04:08 AM

plastic surgery or not i still love Ayu

**taskinillusion** · #**102** 21st March 2009, 06:56 AM

Oh jeez... no no no... Just make-up, lighting, and Photoshop, guys.

Deibel · #**103** 22nd March 2009, 12:24 AM

Isn't her noise; is her eyes and hair.

Her noise is the same =)

panda♥ · #**104** 22nd March 2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumixfan

Well she could've gotten a job to pay for plastic surgery... Its not that expensive. She could've gotten it done over a period of time before stardom. My mom's friend is getting plastic surgery and she's not rich. Its not THAT expensive.

She could've gotten sugery done and then signed up for the swim suit model. That is also a possibility.

She did leave home and went to tokyo at an early age so her mom can't control her if she lived on her own and who knows, maybe her mom did let her at an early age :S

I personally don't know for sure if she did plastic surgery, but i think she did. I'm not saying its because she's ugly, but maybe she wanted bigger eyes, or a nicer nose. Just to finish little touches to look perfect.

Rhinoplasty is typically $3000-$6000, I think that is WAY too much for a little 14-17 year old girl to be able to afford, even just with a job. Due to child labor laws teens in high school are only allowed to work part time which is typically 5 hours. I'm sure our child labor laws do not differ THAT greatly from Japan's, so I still think it's too much for her pre-debut self to be able to afford.

As for blepharoplasty (eyelid surgery), it typically runs about $2,500 which I think is still too much for pre-debut Ayu to have afforded.

I'm not saying you have to be rich to get plastic surgery, but I'm pretty sure it was too much for Ayu to afford before her debut.

I may be wrong, but minimum wage in Japan is about ~$6.40 now. Meaning if she was working part time she would be making about $32 a day. Five days a week = $160. Keep in mind she still had to afford food and transportation as well.

I'm sorry but I just don't see her being able to afford it back then...

SunshineSlayer · #**105** 22nd March 2009, 08:49 PM

^^ If she did have plastic surgery then, the bill surely would have been picked up by AVEX. She was basically gonethe entire year of 1997 before her official debut. Judging by her Poker Face performances though, I don't really think she had anything done at that time.

panda♥ · #**106** 22nd March 2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

^^ If she did have plastic surgery then, the bill surely would have been picked up by AVEX. She was basically gonethe entire year of 1997 before her official debut. Judging by her Poker Face performances though, I don't really think she had anything done at that time.

I'm talking before she even met Max. Not to mention the expenses of staying at the hospital and pain medication. I really doubt she's had anything done...

It's just my opinion though, it gets a bit bothersome to me when people falsely accuse her of going under the knife when they have no proof. (not talking about a specific person, just in general.)

kirei_ayumi · #**107** 22nd March 2009, 09:45 PM

although her nose looks a little smaller to me, I don't think she had any surgery on it...
it could be the different foundations she's using on her skin that could change the appearance of her nose

FuNsTyLe · #**108** 22nd March 2009, 09:58 PM

I think it's pretty silly of you guys to defend her and right away deny that she has ever had any... Some of you almost get upset and angry when the topic come up, yet you cannot be 100% sure she has never had it. It should be possible to discuss the issue right? Especially when there are actually some recent photos where it might look like she has had something done. I don't care if she has or hasn't, and besides, AFAIK there is no offical statement coming from Ayu herself, saying she has never done anything.

I'm just sick of those"OMG! Are you guys stupid? Off course she has never done anything! Her eyes were always big, and her boobs are big now because of a bra, and her nose is more refined because of her new make-up!" -type of comments...

How can you be so sure she is 100% natural??
Well you can't be, so shut it, and be open to the idea that she might have had something done at some point.

jbrat2219 · #**109** 22nd March 2009, 09:59 PM

Let's not forget how EXTREMELY photoshopped Ayu's photos (videos?) can be! But when you see her with no make up or in candid shots like at the airport or something, she looks very very normal. As far as eyelids are concerned, I'm rather unsure, she appear to have natural double eyelids from what I can tell from some previous photos and live performances. And without make up her eyes are pretty much what they were back in the day so...

Kazeyomi · #**110** 22nd March 2009, 10:48 PM

I don't care if she has done plastic surgery or not ^^'
may she was unconfortable with her body, who knows.

PoetGirl · #**111** 22nd March 2009, 11:00 PM

i dont care really. its true i cant stand some of her photos because she looks like.. fake is not even a right word, she looks like she doesnt exist, but its not her fault. its damn photoshop.
on candids she looks very pretty, real and cute

MissElin_ · #**112** 22nd March 2009, 11:18 PM

I would care much but.... No.
Bandage on her nose wouldnt have got away from bandage so quickly thinking that she tooks pics of herself like every day or something... You know, nothing changes things better then makeup and some photoshop.

**taskinillusion** · #**113** 23rd March 2009, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FuNsTyLe

I think it's pretty silly of you guys to defend her and right away deny that she has ever had any... Some of you almost get upset and angry when the topic come up, yet you cannot be 100% sure she has never had it. It should be possible to discuss the issue right? Especially when there are actually some recent photos where it might look like she has had something done. I don't care if she has or hasn't, and besides, AFAIK there is no offical statement coming from Ayu herself, saying she has never done anything.

I'm just sick of those"OMG! Are you guys stupid? Off course she has never done anything! Her eyes were always big, and her boobs are big now because of a bra, and her nose is more refined because of her new make-up!" -type of comments...

How can you be so sure she is 100% natural??
Well you can't be, so shut it, and be open to the idea that she might have had something done at some point.

The topic gets brought up every 5-6 months or so it seems like. It's just gotten really old and we always rehash the same things.

minkAYuko · #**114** 23rd March 2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy48

, why is it that people doubt the power of makeup Xd

lol they also doubt the power of photoshop, llightning and camera lenses!

panda87 · #**115** 23rd March 2009, 04:25 AM

its make up. i have days my nose is big u kno wat i mean? it's easy to change the narrowness of your nose with shading with foundation.

but what i think is different about her now is:

SHE SEEMS TO LOOK CROSS-EYED LATELY. if i had screencaps to show you from her latest three PVs, you'll get wat i mean. plus, it's relevant in her recent magazine photoshoots O_o

kendelle · #**116** 23rd March 2009, 06:28 AM

@SunshineSlayer: Could Ayu be contracted by Wacol underwear to wear push-up bras in public? I don't remember any announcements on what her contract could include after the photoshoots she did. It could be possible she's contracted to wear pushup bras in public so people start talking about her boobs and go "Oh, she did that Wacol ad - they must work!!".

TA messages would probably count as "public images" and I doubt that Avex would want her to admit to surgery even if she had it!

Then again, she may have worn them in the Wacol ads and gone "Woah!!!!

" and bought heaps of them

Ayu seems the type to find something she likes and go into it full-force. I wouldn't be surprised if she had almost filled her recent wardrobe extension in Nagase's part of the house xD

And @Jeremy's statements: I agree that she probably hasn't had the time. The surgeon's quoted times would only be applicable for when the patient is resting afterwards, right? Ayu's been working til 3 and 4ams, filming PVs and doing photoshoots. We had pics of her on Today's Photos while she was away too.

Even if Ayu had the timeframe to have surgery overseas it's likely, given all the work she's done both there and now back, it would probably be noticable in her TA photos or in the radio broadcast she did the other day.

Her wrist still isn't 100% and that happened before New Years...facial Plastic Surgery can involve breaking the actual nose and injections can scrape the bone and leave deep bruising. If she can't use her wrist with a 70+ day injury, how can she sing and train with ~30 day old face and chest bruising?

SunshineSlayer · #**117** 23rd March 2009, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kendelle

@SunshineSlayer: Could Ayu be contracted by Wacol underwear to wear push-up bras in public? I don't remember any announcements on what her contract could include after the photoshoots she did. It could be possible she's contracted to wear pushup bras in public so people start talking about her boobs and go "Oh, she did that Wacol ad - they must work!!".

That's a possibility, but what really got me thinking is her recent TA photos of dance rehearsals in the black tank top. I've done a lot of jazz and ballet dancing in the past, so I was always wearing those and all they have in them is a built in bra, but definitely not the kind that is going to push your breasts up and out and give you cleavage unless your breasts are already big to begin with. Prior to seeing those pictures, I too thought it was just a really really padded and squeezed together wacoal push up bra she was wearing. But those TA photos have me questioning now.

As for her face, I really have no idea.

extepan · #**118** 23rd March 2009, 01:06 PM

her nose ridge looks too prominent compared to before, so she could have had surgery.

kendelle · #**119** 24th March 2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

That's a possibility, but what really got me thinking is her recent TA photos of dance rehearsals in the black tank top. I've done a lot of jazz and ballet dancing in the past, so I was always wearing those and all they have in them is a built in bra, but definitely not the kind that is going to push your breasts up and out and give you cleavage unless your breasts are already big to begin with. Prior to seeing those pictures, I too thought it was just a really really padded and squeezed together wacoal push up bra she was wearing. But those TA photos have me questioning now.

As for her face, I really have no idea.

Oh, cool ^_^ I used to do jazz and tap dancing until I was about 14! It was loads of fun

I don't remember the older girls wearing tank tops with built in sports bras, I think they just wore their normal bras with tanks over the top (but this was almost 10 years ago - probably before the built-ins became popular), but that's a good point.

Having squeezed boobs while doing exercise would be pretty uncomfortable

. I hope more pics come through TA soon, or we can see the PV making clips and compare there. It would probably do more justice than still images.

Blasterion · #**120** 24th March 2009, 04:26 AM

she has been looking.. big for a while now.. yeah I'm wondering.

well as long it's not looking too obvious, it's ok I guess

and her having surgery while in Hawaii...I wouldn't think she'd do stuff like that with her studio recording so soon after
and yeah with her busy schedule and stuff too ..