Songs about Death? - Page 2

Andrenekoi · #21 17th November 2009, 03:00 AM

I'm pretty sure she does... let me think...

imo those may be about life depending on how u read them:

Conected

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evolution

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everywhere nowhere

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winding road

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beautiful day

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and IMO those are for sure about life

voyage

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dolls

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kotora · #22 17th November 2009, 03:03 AM

How about Together When...?
It seems have an implication of death.

It says

* I wanted to say "Thank you"
I couldn't say "Thank you"

baybreeze · #23 17th November 2009, 03:29 AM

HANABI

I think its about death too.

A-TeensFan · #24 17th November 2009, 09:45 AM

Free & Easy - that song is about death!

Not~Yet · #25 17th November 2009, 01:47 PM

Well, you could interprentate the "we've taken the long road, but we have finally arrived" part of dearest to be about death. In fact, there are very many you can think to be about death if you really read between the lines. But I think pretty much all of the ones that were really written about death have been already mentioned.

hpg23 · #26 17th November 2009, 04:02 PM

Beautiful Fighters!!!
joking okay? xD

I think the most obvious one is HEAVEN.

C+R+E+AYUMI · #27 17th November 2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RPGames

Who... = grandmother's death
ever free = grandmother's death
untitled ~for her~ = friend's death
HEAVEN
Dearest
Memorial address = father's death
momentum

100% confirmed.

i believe to have read that Dearest was dedicated to her Love with Tomoya Nagase..isn't it?

Although this, I dedicate this song in a letter inside the roses i gave to my granpa burial.

@lostheaven

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Why Heaven? -_-

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dawnss · #28 17th November 2009, 05:35 PM

I really think that the most obvious songs have been mentioned, but some songs are stretching it, to an extent. Just because in dearest she says that she hopes to see her lovers face until the day she dies, does not mean the entire song is about death, granted someone can see an interpertation like that, but I do not think that it is right to associate songs like dearest, far away, or even end roll with death. Now those songs do definately have some sad lines in them, however they are not primarily about death, maybe the loss of a something that the narrator desires, but they are not about death. However, depending on how you interpret songs you could refer to death as in love that has passed, so therefore it is dead, but I think that is a stretch somewhat, because it is not as if she is saying that her old way of living or her old life is dead, but someone can probably convience me otherwise. I could even say that walking proud then is a song about death in the sense that her old past has died and she is looking forward to a brighter day, I still do not understand why this song was on A Best Two Black because I have always thought the end was positive (she mentions that she is walking forward). So in other words, there is a difference between a song that mentions death and a song thats main topic concerns death (a major theme versus a minor theme). Some songs like heaven, memorial address, who (even though it does not have that feeling for me I can still see where people are coming from), ever free (should be song during funerals, JK), momentum (if you go off the mv and the lyrics, I guess, that song is borderline for me, however; if anyone wants to challenge me and convience me otherwise I am totally up for a resonable logical interpertation and analysis), and obviously untitled for her. So I hope I am not rambling but I think this all depends on the interpertation, we all, myself included, just have to make sure that our evidence is logical. I will say this much though, for some songs the meanings are very ambigious, I think Ayu is a fantastic lyricist, however some songs are very confusing whether it is because the words are lost in translation, literally, or it because she is just very confused, or I just do not understand some things. I do not think I will ever understand Kanariya, are the canaries an allegory for something else

. So I guess we can all give each other a little bit of wiggle room if we make some mistakes in interpertation. Like I said sorry if I rambled on and excuse me if I offened anyone!

Andrenekoi · #29 17th November 2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dawnss

I really think that the most obvious songs have been mentioned, but some songs are stretching it, to an extent. Just because in dearest she says that she hopes to see her lovers face until the day she dies, does not mean the entire song is about death, granted someone can see an interpertation like that, but I do not think that it is right to associate songs like dearest, far away, or even end roll with death. Now those songs do definately have some sad lines in them, however they are not primarily about death, maybe the loss of a something that the narrator desires, but they are not about death. However, depending on how you interpret songs you could refer to death as in love that has passed, so therefore it is dead, but I think that is a stretch somewhat, because it is not as if she is saying that her old way of living or her old life is dead, but someone can probably convience me otherwise. I could even say that walking proud then is a song about death in the sense that her old past has died and she is looking forward to a brighter day, I still do not understand why this song was on A Best Two Black because I have always thought the end was positive (she mentions that she is walking forward). So in other words, there is a difference between a song that mentions death and a song thats main topic concerns death (a major theme versus a minor theme). Some songs like heaven, memorial address, who (even though it does not have that feeling for me I can still see where people are coming from), ever free (should be song during funerals, JK), momentum (if you go off the mv and the lyrics, I guess, that song is borderline for me, however; if anyone wants to challenge me and convience me otherwise I am totally up for a resonable logical interpertation and analysis), and obviously untitled for her. So I hope I am not rambling but I think this all depends on the interpertation, we all, myself included, just have to make sure that our evidence is logical. I will say this much though, for some songs the meanings are very ambigious, I think Ayu is a fantastic lyricist, however some songs are very confusing whether it is because the words are lost in translation, literally, or it because she is just very confused, or I just do not understand some things. I do not think I will ever understand Kanariya, are the canaries an allegory for something else

. So I guess we can all give each other a little bit of wiggle room if we make some mistakes in interpertation. Like I said sorry if I rambled on and excuse me if I offened anyone!

You offended me to death! let's fight! ò.ó
j/k xD good points^^

dawnss · #30 18th November 2009, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

You offended me to death! let's fight! ò.ó
j/k xD good points^^

Ha ha Andrenekoi, thanks for the good points. I do have to warn you though I can not fight, and I would run away like a girl. Wait a minute I am a girl!

C+R+E+AYUMI · #31 18th November 2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dawnss

Some songs like heaven, memorial address, who (even though it does not have that feeling for me I can still see where people are coming from), ever free (should be song during funerals, JK), momentum (if you go off the mv and the lyrics, I guess, that song is borderline for me, however; if anyone wants to challenge me and convience me otherwise I am totally up for a resonable logical interpertation and analysis), and obviously untitled for her. So I hope I am not rambling but I think this all depends on the interpertation, we all, myself included, just have to make sure that our evidence is logical. I will say this much though, for some songs the meanings are very ambigious, I think Ayu is a fantastic lyricist, however some songs are very confusing whether it is because the words are lost in translation, literally, or it because she is just very confused, or I just do not understand some things. I do not think I will ever understand Kanariya, are the canaries an allegory for something else

. So I guess we can all give each other a little bit of wiggle room if we make some mistakes in interpertation. Like I said sorry if I rambled on and excuse me if I offened anyone!

yes, i agree. many things can depend on interpretation and depend also on the feelings we have listen to them.

Most of the menings can also be lost in translation, infact, if I compare my translation of HEAVEN to masa's translation they're pretty different.
Maybe because sometimes we make mnore than one translation (i usually translate from japanese to italian and from italian to english).

But feelings really incise the final meaning of lyrics.
As you know all, an objective translation it's impossible.

Iyreen · #32 18th November 2009, 11:37 AM

I always wondering about this too. Sometimes ayu lyric is too deep so I always judge based on her pv XD
Like ever free, its about death isnt it? The pv is kinda creepy imo, and its weird too..Anybody can interpret wads ever free pv means?
And also, is free & easy is about death too as the pv was like showing her being sentenced to death?

dawnss · #33 19th November 2009, 03:30 AM

I still do not think Free and Easy is about death because there is not a concise ending, the ending is left up to the audience I think, because we never see Ayu being executed, although there is reasonable evidence to believe that she is. No one can say that she is killed for certain, at the end of the video, but if the lyrics and the mv are placed together than I think that is a stretch. However if a fan believes the mv refers to Joan of Arc then death is plausible. Ever Free like most fans have stated is about death, I think the title really says it all, but I think that a title like ever free gives the impression that the soul is free, idk challenge me cause I might be wrong. Ah, C+R+E+AYUMI you are right no one can eliminate their biases totally, imagine what the world would be like if that was to happen

, lovely don't you think?

gallowsCalibrator · #34 21st November 2009, 02:15 AM

Urmm... I'm not really sure about this one, but...

Would teddy bear be considered to be about death? I always thought it to be telling of when her father left...

"I found a teddy bear...
In place of you"

...I don't know XD I'm really bad at interpreting things lol

dawnss · #35 24th November 2009, 05:30 AM

I do not think so Captain Kawaii 123, maybe, I think she is really singing about a loss as in someone who had broke promises they could not keep, which would make sense if they left a teddybear and also the line, "but how can people regret mistakes that they keep on making?"

gallowsCalibrator · #36 24th November 2009, 10:33 PM

^Ohhhh ok sorry XD I am so terrible at interpreting things lol XD

dawnss · #37 25th November 2009, 04:52 AM

Do not be sorry, captain kawaii 123 it is okay, you gave it a shot, trust me you are much better at something that I probably suck at, so don't worry about it.

Does anyone have any other songs that they think could be about death?

Rainbow141 · #38 27th November 2009, 03:38 AM

The most obvious one to me is untitled ~for her~. I'm pretty sure it was about and dedicated to a friend of Ayu's who died (did she commit suicide? I can't remember if that was true or not).

Quote:

If I could have just one wish now
I'd like to see you again

That day you decided
To walk alone
On that long journey
To that place above the clouds

That last stanza... I really got the impression of taking one's own life. "That day you decided / to walk alone" sounds like death by choice, in other words, suicide, because this follows with "on that long journey / to that place above the clouds", death and journey to heaven.

Really sad and moving song, definitely about death.

dawnss · #39 8th December 2009, 08:37 PM

Oh yeah I forgot about untitled for her.

zyoeru · #40 8th December 2009, 10:09 PM

Life was written for another friend that passed away last year~.