a-nation TV version release date - 9/30

[truehappiness]

I think it's the fact that Ayu ended the concert..

It wouldn't have made sense to just have her do an MC and then end with July 1st or just put STEP you/is this LOVE/HANABI/flower garden. I think it was an okay move, but in terms of other artist: Ayu ratio, it was super low. I think it would have been weird whatever they did.

I think the only thing worse would've been if they just stuck all the tracks on there. :/

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

That's cause last year that happened. A bunch of footage was cut from the TV version and a bit was added like backstage shoots / Substage footage. :]

Like people who originally got 2 songs in the TV one got 1 in the DVD.

Ayu retained 80% or more of her live for some reason though.. 4 songs out of 5 [is this LOVE? got canned]

There was also fairyland that was cut from both the tv and dvd versions.

[truehappiness]

Yeah, that too. XD

I believe that fairyland wasn't included because it wasn't in the playlist to begin with..

[It replaced STEP you right? Or was it an addition to STEP you?]

[Psychotic_X]

I think its so unfair that Ayu gets so much more than other artists.

the intro, the big entrance, the large setlist, the cart around the arena and the introducing of dancers and band members.

I mean if it was her concert, fair enough but it isn't which is a load of crap really...

[truehappiness]

She's the one who made avex what they are imho. Their sales increased a LOT when Ayu came into play :] I think she deserves that much. She even got the most goods this year. ;D Poster, phone strap, uchiwa, air fresher, a bunch of towels, shirts, and more!

[Psychotic_X]

that's so unfair...

[LacusClyne]

diao...i just realease the exist of this thread...

back to topic...that is so long....ooh....how am i gonna wait...

[truehappiness]

Well, the good thing about this is that we might get a bit of news footage after the 12th [See, I think Ayu is the driving force behind many news reports for avex events ;D I mean they've had two a-nations and no one's done anything on them yet since Ayu hasn't been in any yet o_o].. :]

I hope it's awesome! >3<

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X

^ yeah I reckon thats a load of BS... I mean I bought the DVD but I like Ayu and all but she's doesn't deserve to have 4 songs on the DVD while others had 1.

doesn't deserve?

How can you say that? Ayu deserves everything in her career - she has worked very hard - certainly harder than Kumi. I can sort of see what you are saying but you certainly didn't choose the right words to express it. Maybe more like, "it was unfair to other arists", hm?

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X

I think its so unfair that Ayu gets so much more than other artists.

the intro, the big entrance, the large setlist, the cart around the arena and the introducing of dancers and band members.

I mean if it was her concert, fair enough but it isn't which is a load of crap really...

I see now that you did use those words later, good choice. However, you sort of "put your foot back in your mouth" after that save... Ayu's performances are always so high energy - that is the type of performer she is. Have you seen Ai Otsuka's "JAM PUNCH" tour? I thought it was terrible - not much energy and the stage was pitiful... nothing compared to Ayu's. You see, that was her own tour and she sells quite alot and is quite popular but she isn't the type of performer Ayu is. She doesn't seem to want the big show as Ayu does, who mind you tries so hard with her effort put into creating her massive performances, nor seem to want anything bigger than that which she had and maybe that is how other artists like her are as well. Also, avex will not let other artists with less fans have a show as big as Ayu's. Ayu's performances are always so "OOH" and "AHH" so they gotta hype you up for her with all the effects. It's like "the queen is here and be prepared to be amazed".

Originally Posted by truehappiness

She's the one who made avex what they are imho. Their sales increased a LOT when Ayu came into play :] I think she deserves that much. She even got the most goods this year. ;D Poster, phone strap, uchiwa, air fresher, a bunch of towels, shirts, and more!

I definately agree. Ayu is the "QUEEN" and she should always be treated like one. Just as when a new president is elected or a new member takes the thrown, the old presidents/royalty don't get spit on, they are still highly respected for what they did and Ayu has done more for avex than anyone so she just has more respect and more power - plus more fans.

[Psychotic_X]

yea it is unfair, but she doesn't have the right to get a cart around the arena and 4 songs and everything...

[truehappiness]

Everyone gets around the same amounts of songs [the concert is like 5 hours long] but a lot of the time, Ayu gets more on the DVDs because her performances cannot simply be abbreviated like other artists'. :]

[LacusClyne]

ayu had change some of japan music industry history. i remember she broke the record of something. the artist before her was Teresa Teng.
opn top of that, Ayu had won numerous awards and broke numerous record too. She deserve to get those treatments. sorry to be so blunt, but if there's people who are unhappy of those treatments ayu gets, why are you here in AHS?

[Endlessoul]

There HAS to be a biggest person on the stage whatever concert it is. And Ayu's got to be that biggest person. That's all.

[Alessia_Tateno]

Originally Posted by anime_fanatic21

doesn't deserve?

How can you say that? Ayu deserves everything in her career - she has worked very hard - certainly harder than Kumi. I can sort of see what you are saying but you certainly didn't choose the right words to express it. Maybe more like, "it was unfair to other arists", hm?

I see now that you did use those words later, good choice. However, you sort of "put your foot back in your mouth" after that save... Ayu's performances are always so high energy - that is the type of performer she is. Have you seen Ai Otsuka's "JAM PUNCH" tour? I thought it was terrible - not much energy and the stage was pitiful... nothing compared to Ayu's. You see, that was her own tour and she sells quite alot and is quite popular but she isn't the type of performer Ayu is. She doesn't seem to want the big show as Ayu does, who mind you tries so hard with her effort put into creating her massive performances, nor seem to want anything bigger than that which she had and maybe that is how other artists like her are as well. Also, avex will not let other artists with less fans have a show as big as Ayu's. Ayu's performances are always so "OOH" and "AHH" so they gotta hype you up for her with all the effects. It's like "the queen is here and be prepared to be amazed".

I definately agree. Ayu is the "QUEEN" and she should always be treated like one. Just as when a new president is elected or a new member takes the thrown, the old presidents/royalty don't get spit on, they are still highly respected for what they did and Ayu has done more for avex than anyone so she just has more respect and more power - plus more fans.

HOW can you say Ayu worked harder than Kuu?? because she had more success than her?? do you know how many people work more harder than both Kuu and Ayu and dont have any success??? being one big one doesnt mean be the best always!!!
I think Psychotic_X is right about it, Ayu doesnt deserve so much space, not because she is not good or something but its not her concert, its A NATION, everyone should have big space on that...not only her..
What about Ai Otsuka? I personally dont like her but if she doesnt want the big success and stage as Ayu's, what's her problem? maybe she doesnt want to become a super diva...and their styles are completely different for me..
Someday someone else will do more than what Ayu did for Avex, you cant say she will always be the queen, maybe she will for you but not for the world...
I repeat, there are many many many artists who make more efforts and work harder than her but fail..I think its matter of lucky, when you are lucky to get a contract and good persons behind you then you can be successfull no matter if your music sucks you will have success...dont tell me this isnt true...Ayu's old singles sold high no matter they were good or bad...its same with Kuu now, no matter if her music is good or bad, still people will buy it...and I dont want to criticize anyone this is just my real though, I like Ayu as I like Kuu and more of them all Namie Amuro, but we are no one to say who worker harder than another one, and still for me its unfair, she have so much space on A nation and other artist less and less...its unfair for other artists thats what I mean...

Originally Posted by LacusClyne

ayu had change some of japan music industry history. i remember she broke the record of something. the artist before her was Teresa Teng.
opn top of that, Ayu had won numerous awards and broke numerous record too. She deserve to get those treatments. sorry to be so blunt, but if there's people who are unhappy of those treatments ayu gets, why are you here in AHS?

Are you kidding me?? complain about the treatments she gets doesnt mean not to be a fan, or else I wont be here, as I said many many times already on this forum, just mean think about it, I am just a fan, not obsessed, so I complain for everyartists I like 'cause I cant like 100% all they do or the treatmeants they get, and I repeat the treatmeant she gets for a concert that isnt her own its unfair for other performing artists...

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Alessia_Tateno

HOW can you say Ayu worked harder than Kuu?? because she had more success than her?? do you know how many people work more harder than both Kuu and Ayu and dont have any success??? being one big one doesnt mean be the best always!!!
I think Psychotic_X is right about it, Ayu doesnt deserve so much space, not because she is not good or something but its not her concert, its A NATION, everyone should have big space on that...not only her..
What about Ai Otsuka? I personally dont like her but if she doesnt want the big success and stage as Ayu's, what's her problem? maybe she doesnt want to become a super diva...and their styles are completely different for me..
Someday someone else will do more than what Ayu did for Avex, you cant say she will always be the queen, maybe she will for you but not for the world...

Aie, Koda vs. Ayu things are too common nowadays.. :/


But seriously, Ayu deserves everything she gets. She works her butt off just like the other artists. I don't think she gets 'special treatment' necessarily.. it's just sort of expected that she's get so much at a-nation... unless some of you expect that THE AYU would get much less than another artist.. o_o; It's just her place in a-nation. Like ELT and TRF before her, she deserves the place that she gets :]

[LacusClyne]

well, my last post is kinda too straight. but i believe ayu deserve to get these treatment NOW, it's not like someone had done better things or achievements then ayu.

or if there's a day, when ayu did horrible things, i will be complaining too. but, i beleve ayu can bring out the energy and life to a-nation, so i have no doubt why she SHOULD NOT be the artist to end a-ntion

[Psychotic_X]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Aie, Koda vs. Ayu things are too common nowadays.. :/

But seriously, Ayu deserves everything she gets. She works her butt off just like the other artists. I don't think she gets 'special treatment' necessarily.. it's just sort of expected that she's get so much at a-nation... unless some of you expect that THE AYU would get much less than another artist.. o_o; It's just her place in a-nation. Like ELT and TRF before her, she deserves the place that she gets :]

*sigh* i restrained myself before but I guess I have no choice but to help out Alessia_Tateno.

Yes, yes we all know Ayu has worked hard for her career. But so has Kuu.. BoA, Ai, hitomi etc... the list goes on, all the artists in their own right have worked for what they are today!

I think it is special treatment, if it was her concert fair enough then she can do whatever the hell she wants. This is "A-Nation", its a concert consisting of various artists from Avex. Everyone deserves the same amount of treatment.

I don't mind if she's performing last or first, it doesn't matter, all the artists get to perform to their fans and that's all that matters. But what I find unfair is how every artist gets to perform and then they can leave the stage for the next one. While Ayu gets to go and ride in a cart around the stadium with her dancers and then she gets to introduce her band members... It's not even her concert, its a shared one shouldn't everyone receive the same treatment, whether you set records and sell millions or not...

[Alessia_Tateno]

No sorry I think I didnt explain myself well,
First I didnt want to start any Ayu vs Kuu but after reading that someone said she worked harder than Kuu then I just replied, and I dont complain about she end the a nation, of course there must be an artist who end the concert but I complain about her getting much treatmeant and more songs ^^

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X

*sigh* i restrained myself before but I guess I have no choice but to help out Alessia_Tateno.

Yes, yes we all know Ayu has worked hard for her career. But so has Kuu.. BoA, Ai, hitomi etc... the list goes on, all the artists in their own right have worked for what they are today!

I think it is special treatment, if it was her concert fair enough then she can do whatever the hell she wants. This is "A-Nation", its a concert consisting of various artists from Avex. Everyone deserves the same amount of treatment.

I don't mind if she's performing last or first, it doesn't matter, all the artists get to perform to their fans and that's all that matters. But what I find unfair is how every artist gets to perform and then they can leave the stage for the next one. While Ayu gets to go and ride in a cart around the stadium with her dancers and then she gets to introduce her band members... It's not even her concert, its a shared one shouldn't everyone receive the same treatment, whether you set records and sell millions or not...

She gets what she wants. She's not the only one who gets to introduce their band and stuff ;D ELT does that occasionally because they always have the same band.. and only sometimes if the dancers are really close to the artist, like in Ayu's case, they get some stuff too.

I think Ayu gets it because that's what she does when she does performances. She probably feels that she needs to show appreciation for those who make the performance possible :]