do you consider Mirrorcle World as a recut single from GUILTY ? - Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai
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Old 15th March 2008, 05:26 AM
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not really, after all it's extended lol. i would only consider exact same song(or very minor changes)from album redistribute as single a recut.
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Old 15th March 2008, 05:41 AM
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not really, after all it's extended lol. i would only consider exact same song(or very minor changes)from album redistribute as single a recut.
Well, Daybreak single is an album cut and it sounds totally different from the original.

Answering to the question, it's really hard to define. The title has changed from Mirror to Mirrorcle World, the song is now an extended version (even though even an extended version of an album song can be considered an aklbum cut).

We'll have a definite answer when her next album is released. If Mirrorcle World is featured on it, then it wasn't a GUILTY's album cut. If it doesn't, then it was.
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Old 18th March 2008, 12:26 AM
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Well, Daybreak single is an album cut and it sounds totally different from the original.

Answering to the question, it's really hard to define. The title has changed from Mirror to Mirrorcle World, the song is now an extended version (even though even an extended version of an album song can be considered an aklbum cut).

We'll have a definite answer when her next album is released. If Mirrorcle World is featured on it, then it wasn't a GUILTY's album cut. If it doesn't, then it was.
I agree with you. but even if it doesn't appear on her next album, i consider MW as a new song. I know it's "only" and extended version, but she re-recorded it, it has new lyrics, it will have a PV, it'll be released as a single, so i think it kinda has left his GUILTY origins in the past
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Old 18th March 2008, 04:48 AM
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I agree with you. but even if it doesn't appear on her next album, i consider MW as a new song. I know it's "only" and extended version, but she re-recorded it, it has new lyrics, it will have a PV, it'll be released as a single, so i think it kinda has left his GUILTY origins in the past
the excerpt lyrics from the MIRROR track have been kept though and weren't renewed. And the Daybreak album cut earned Daybreak a chance to have a PV.
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Old 18th March 2008, 04:57 AM
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^ Yes, i know. MW conserves Mirror's lyrics, but with the addition of more lyrics, i think it turns into a new song.

As far as i know, a recut would have been to take a song, re record it and sell it. Maybe i'm wrong though
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Old 18th March 2008, 04:58 AM
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As far as i know, a recut would have been to take a song, re record it and sell it. Maybe i'm wrong though
Yea that's how I see it too.
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^ Yes, i know. MW conserves Mirror's lyrics, but with the addition of more lyrics, i think it turns into a new song.

As far as i know, a recut would have been to take a song, re record it and sell it. Maybe i'm wrong though
imo it just goes from prologue status to a full song. I don't really consider it a brand new song though. The added lyrics don't really make the song extra different nor do the new parts added to it; they just make the prologue Mirror complete now. Turning it into a brand new song would be doing something like LOVE~Destiny~ to LOVE~refrain~, same composition, but the lyrics are brand new and it has a different arrangement and pace. Mirrorcle World is nothing but an extended version of Mirror, slightly retouched here and there. The concept of the song is still the same.

imo that's almost like saying RAINBOW from A BALLADS is a brand new different song from track 0 from the RAINBOW album, just because the previous was incomplete. It was a sample, but still, the very same RAINBOW (just that back then ayu didn't change titles, because the sample was not on the actual CD but on a website you'd use the pass that came with the album).

That's all speculation though, so I could be totally wrong.

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