Ayumi's ex-boyfriend Tomoya Nagase is getting married

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Ayumiko

I remembered back then when tomoya and ayu was still together...there were ayu hating from some tomoya fans (not in this forum)...I wonder what they think about aibu saki and this marriage rumor. (like if they prefer ayu or her more with tomoya) I personally don't like aibu saki. I stopped watching absolute boyfriend half way because of her acting...and she's not pretty. >_>

I did find her a bit annoying in that drama. She is cute though, but very different looks from Ayu. Also her personality may be great (or not haha) we don't know.

[Qt Mashi]

i'm happy for Tomoya, maybe he's always wanted to settle down. And maybe he already told Ayu that he's getting married way before~

this also reminds me of days pv lol

[stef_gal]

last time i read from a website.
it said that Ayu is willing to give out her career and married to Tomoya...
is Tomoya the one who do not want to settle down...
thats what i know...

[Ayumiko]

^ayu said before that music is her life. I don't think ayu would give up her career just for the sake of marriage. Even if she marries in the future, I think she'll still continue her career.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by Ayumiko

^ayu said before that music is her life. I don't think ayu would give up her career just for the sake of marriage. Even if she marries in the future, I think she'll still continue her career.

I agree
but obviously, if she has kids and stuff, she wont be able to keep the tours, etc

just like namie, she will need time to stay with her family



anyway... I really hope that ayu doesn't cry a lot about this tomoya guy anymore... they were together for a long time, and I feel that she really loved(love) him. If I was her, I would feel really hurt, and hate him, miss him, all that and more at the same time...

if she was really in love with him, she will always be in love...

thats how it is

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

if she was really in love with him, she will always be in love...

thats how it is

That's not true. You may be in love for someone for a while but this love can fade out with time, for several reasons. People who still are in love after a break up are those who didn't really want to break up or didn't really get over the relationship, or were eally confused about it. By what ayu said in her messages, if she really is a sincere person, was that she got over it and just looked at him as a friend now, which means she was not in love with him anymore.

It scares me how people make so much of a fairy tale over ayu X tomoya. They're both humans, in a relationship, and breaking up is not something completely unusual. You can date someone for several years and still not know them that well. You can date someone for years and one day realize that's not the kind of person you'd like to spend the rest of your life with. Sometimes love relationships end up turning into friendships solely, to a point both parties realize they're really not loving each other anymore, just needing the friendship. Also not all break ups are painful, or at least not necessarily painful for both parties. ayu isn't perfect. Tomoya is not perfect. They have flaws too. people idealize this thing so much. so Tomoya is gonna marry? Alright, he was single and didn't have anything to do with ayu anymore, so why not? Congrats to him, and ayu go live her life.

And tbh, if it was not for ayu's happiness, maybe this break up was for the better. It's much better than dragging a relationship for convenience. I don't feel sorry for ayu. Hopefully she'll be able to find someone who she loves and that loves her. Period.

[Arenia]

Taken from TV Pia 10/21 with Nagase Tomoya on cover

Nagase: Seeing Saki-chan on TV Commercials and others, I thought she was a lively and cute girl. However after meeting her in person, she is also very attractive! I got my heart beating faster (laugh)

Aibu: That's a pressure (laugh). For me, just as what I imagined of Nagase-san, he is like a "dependable elder brother"! I think I can have no worry following him.

Nagase: Ah! Yes, follow me! (laugh)


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nagase already forgot ayu
poor ayu.... T.T

[waterballoon]

Congratulations to him. I'm quite sure Ayu would handle this rationally.

[Sangky]

So strange...

it's coming up at the same time of the release of Days PV.

Anyway, it does not matter now, thanks for the news.

[lfe.]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Granted we are all outsiders, but if you've followed news articles, interviews, even Ayumi's own lyrics etc., it should be pretty evident that it likely wasn't Tomoya that was the problem in the whole marriage thing. I even remember an interview that was posted here in the news section in probably 2005 that had comments from one of Tomoya's parents saying that they wished he was with someone who was willing to settle down. And even Ayu herself said that their decision to split was mutual - it doesn't seem like she was dumped.

I agree, well with the first part, I still think it was Ayu that broke it off. Marriage is all about settling down. Namie took some time off for her son. Same thing with Britney except she also had that mental breakdown that was additional time off. Mark Wahlberg is planning to quit the business at around the age of 40 to focus on raising his family since he finally is getting married. Ayu is still at the point of the career where she still loves to sing and reach out to her fans. She wasn't ready to settle down, and she wasn't ready for this marriage.

Everyone always has tiny leftover feelings for their exs so I am sure she feels something about this, but it probably doesn't add up to much. I mean she turned his room into her new shoe room, which doesn't necessarily mean she's over him, but shes putting in the effort to put him in the past.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

That's not true. You may be in love for someone for a while but this love can fade out with time, for several reasons. People who still are in love after a break up are those who didn't really want to break up or didn't really get over the relationship, or were eally confused about it. By what ayu said in her messages, if she really is a sincere person, was that she got over it and just looked at him as a friend now, which means she was not in love with him anymore.

There are all different types of love. Ayu was with Nagase for 7 years. They are probably very special to one another, and that can be a type of love as well. Ayu says they grew to be more like brother and sister, and I think that that's something very special. I don't know about you...but I don't have a lot of people I can say that I am so close to, they are like my sibling.

It scares me how people make so much of a fairy tale over ayu X tomoya. They're both humans, in a relationship, and breaking up is not something completely unusual. You can date someone for several years and still not know them that well. You can date someone for years and one day realize that's not the kind of person you'd like to spend the rest of your life with. Sometimes love relationships end up turning into friendships solely, to a point both parties realize they're really not loving each other anymore, just needing the friendship. Also not all break ups are painful, or at least not necessarily painful for both parties. ayu isn't perfect. Tomoya is not perfect. They have flaws too. people idealize this thing so much. so Tomoya is gonna marry? Alright, he was single and didn't have anything to do with ayu anymore, so why not? Congrats to him, and ayu go live her life.

You're right, but you're also wrong. Of course you can date someone for a long period of time and still not know them that well, but you know, that is a specialized case in which both parties have to be in the wrong for a very long time...and honestly, doesn't happen as much as some people would like to think. People can only handle so much.

I think some members here have taken Ayu's relationship with Tomoya to be something that it isn't, which is understandable since, given the fact that they were in fact officially in a relationship for seven years and that none of us really knew anything about it. I think some people need to be more understanding...but...i mean, it's AHS, what are you gonna do?

And tbh, if it was not for ayu's happiness, maybe this break up was for the better. It's much better than dragging a relationship for convenience. I don't feel sorry for ayu. Hopefully she'll be able to find someone who she loves and that loves her. Period.

You're right. None of use should feel sorry for Ayu. She most likely feels it was for the best, and you know what, something gives me the feeling that it was a mutual thing. Why shouldn't it be?

I don't think Tomoya is that stupid that he didn't realise the relationship was dead lol. It probably has been for a long time. Although people like to use Ayu's lyrics as evidence that it wasn't, which kind of makes me laugh.

We don't know anything about this other than what Ayu has given us, and since it's none of our business in the first place, I think she's given us enough.

[libra_air_hot]

DAY PV is so connected to this! Hichic no wonder, i was surprised why Ayu would put out an emotional PV like that, with the ring and crying and...
Well too bad for Tomoya. Ayu is the best catch ever! He misses out big time!

[Ayumiko]

If I remember it right, didn't ayu say her relationship with tomoya became more like family members than lovers? that's why they broke up? and they still meet up and go for dinners?

[lfe.]

Most of us believe that was just a reason to feed to the media since everyone was asking why.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by emiko

There are all different types of love. Ayu was with Nagase for 7 years. They are probably very special to one another, and that can be a type of love as well. Ayu says they grew to be more like brother and sister, and I think that that's something very special. I don't know about you...but I don't have a lot of people I can say that I am so close to, they are like my sibling.

The terms "in love" and "love" i was talking about in that post of mine was the kind of love between two partners, in which they're bound together in a relationship where there's also intimate contact, and they can be called lovers, not just "family/brother and sister". The love of brother and sister is completely different from that, and imo, if ayu got to that point with nagase, it means she's not "in love with" him as in the term of two lovers who are in close relationship. it would severely creep me out if she were to say it otherwise, that she loves him like a brother but also want to be his lover, that would be.....no words.

Originally Posted by emiko

You're right, but you're also wrong. Of course you can date someone for a long period of time and still not know them that well, but you know, that is a specialized case in which both parties have to be in the wrong for a very long time...and honestly, doesn't happen as much as some people would like to think. People can only handle so much.

That's why I said "can" meaning it's a possibility, not a certainty. The possibility is there, even if it's not the highest, but still exists, and is not as rare as you point out imo, at least not for what I've personally seem. I've never gone through this, but I've seem such things happening to many people around me.

The cheesiest example I could give here is "cheating", though it's only the tip of an iceberg of many other problems that can put an end to long term relationships. There are far many other examples in which one of the partners with lack of sincerity and honesty for so may years can lead a relationship to ruins after the truth slowly resurfarce, or, people camn change over the years, for the better, or for the worse. Cheating can destroy relationships (or not), and many times only one of the partners are aware of it (obviously, because they're the ones cheating) while other partner is delusional in love thinking that their partner only thinks about them. Cheating happens in many relationships. There are so many books, movies and music talking about it, that we'd be lying if we say it's a specialized case that rarely happens. In army, the majority of the men there cheated on their girlfriends/wives and would openly and even proudly tell me about it, but obviously the majority of their wives/gf weren't aware they were cheated by them. One of the lieutenants there was already engaged after quite some time of relationship, and about to marry, and would constantly tell about his cheating adventures to the other men without her knowing. One day, she accidently found out girl's phones numbers on his locker during an event in the HQ (not in defense of him, because I truly despised what he did, but she only discovered it because he was dumb enough to leave such evidence in a place where he keeps his personal stuff). She broke up with him after that, but then, he started convincing her with lies that she was misunderstanding it all, and according to what he said, she was starting to fall for it. People handle a lot of crap for the sake of their relationships, and a lot of people can do so much to try and keep their relationships, whatever "price" it may cost them. sometimes, it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes the thing is dragged for such a time that one day, finally wears out. It doesn't really impress me how there are so many relationship/marital problems out there. Relationships are complex, and they don't have a formula.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by Arenia

Taken from TV Pia 10/21 with Nagase Tomoya on cover

Nagase: Seeing Saki-chan on TV Commercials and others, I thought she was a lively and cute girl. However after meeting her in person, she is also very attractive! I got my heart beating faster (laugh)

Aibu: That's a pressure (laugh). For me, just as what I imagined of Nagase-san, he is like a "dependable elder brother"! I think I can have no worry following him.

Nagase: Ah! Yes, follow me! (laugh)


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nagase already forgot ayu
poor ayu.... T.T

Um... isn't that what Ayu said about him? That they had a love for each other like siblings/friends? Hmmm... doesn't sound good Tomoya xD;

[paperitahra]

Oooooh.. I feel kinda bad for Ayu. Well she might be over their break up, but still. It's only been an year and he's already found someone else.. So sad..

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

Um... isn't that what Ayu said about him? That they had a love for each other like siblings/friends? Hmmm... doesn't sound good Tomoya xD;

I was thinking the same thing. lol. Poor Tomoya. He'll propose and get shot down with the 'your like a family member' excuse again.

[v3lun420]

I don;t care anymore about him (despite the fact that I am reading this news too^^)

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

That's not true. You may be in love for someone for a while but this love can fade out with time, for several reasons. People who still are in love after a break up are those who didn't really want to break up or didn't really get over the relationship, or were eally confused about it. By what ayu said in her messages, if she really is a sincere person, was that she got over it and just looked at him as a friend now, which means she was not in love with him anymore.

It scares me how people make so much of a fairy tale over ayu X tomoya. They're both humans, in a relationship, and breaking up is not something completely unusual. You can date someone for several years and still not know them that well. You can date someone for years and one day realize that's not the kind of person you'd like to spend the rest of your life with. Sometimes love relationships end up turning into friendships solely, to a point both parties realize they're really not loving each other anymore, just needing the friendship. Also not all break ups are painful, or at least not necessarily painful for both parties. ayu isn't perfect. Tomoya is not perfect. They have flaws too. people idealize this thing so much. so Tomoya is gonna marry? Alright, he was single and didn't have anything to do with ayu anymore, so why not? Congrats to him, and ayu go live her life.

And tbh, if it was not for ayu's happiness, maybe this break up was for the better. It's much better than dragging a relationship for convenience. I don't feel sorry for ayu. Hopefully she'll be able to find someone who she loves and that loves her. Period.

uhmmm... well, love is part of everyone, and we are all imperfect people. maybe I was compairing my situation to hers, but I'm guessing that she was really hurt after they broke up. Her songs at that time talked about it, so that makes me think that she was really in love with him.


and I believe that a love of 7 years will be really hard to forget... the love that she felt for him, will always be with her, I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.