What I hate about most J-Pop fans I meet in real life

[Piccolo]

Hmm.... well I don't casually chat with too many of them, but sometimes it's a little annoying when they don't know much about what they're listening to, or they treat every jpop song as gold.

[Picaflor 7/4]

I agree. I was at kinokuniyas on sunday in new york city, and my friend and I were in the music section. (I bought ayu's rnrc cd/dvd) anyways. There was this kid in there too who came from an anime convention held a little bit away from kinokuniyas and all he did was look through the "anime music" section. he looked through bleach, naruto, one piece, yada yada yada. and he bought a few mangas, then walked out. I could tell that he knew absolutely nothing out side of anime. He didn't even take a 1 second glance at the "japanese pop" section right freaking behind him. All he cared about is what was being played in anime.

My friend is a bit like that also. He doesn't really listen to japanese music, but the few songs he has from japan are all from anime openings and endings. >>

[Kazeyomi]

^
You have a good point and I agree with all you said.
I just meant there's a sort of hatred between most of animemusiconly lovers and jpop ones. They don't want to listen to each other favourite music, most of times.That's pretty awful. I've met otakus who don't know who Ayu is, but they ask me which song they should listen from her first. And it's pretty rare. Unfortunately there are who don't wanna listen someone else than random seiyuu. And I know how could be hard for a no-anime fan find a true jpop fan IRL, even though it's the first time I see people who listen jpop but hate animes lol.

[~Saru]

I suppose in a way...they are both the same thing.
I Mean the japanese artists sing the songs for the anime.
And i remember i watched an anime and loved the song, decided to check out the artist, check out the rest of their songs but i didn't really like the rest of their songs, and wasn't really interested in the rest of the songs.
Others i've found through this forum or very few other anime's.
It could be because anime in certain countries is shown on tv as childrens programs which we watched when we were younger, and they don't show japanese music video's on music tv shows like MTV, kiss, box ect. So this might be a guildline into what people will want to see and have been shown by the media.

I do, i reaaaally do know what you are talking about, i've had my own experiance with it but upon a massive scale of lets say...a classroom full of people.
At my collage they do a "oriental language" enrichment lesson where its both japanese and chinese languages being taught, but its only the basics.
And i do admit...i did show off a little because i did self teach myself with 5 years worth of japanese through Books, music, tv shows ect.
And about ...4 people of about 20 were there purley for the language and not for "anime".
We also had to do a presentation on a country and what it is in that country that we liked.
all of them were to do with a certain anime show or manga book.
Until i decided to go all out and produce a "Japanese music and how it influences" and i think i opened up a lot of people's minds about listening to japanese music from those who don't do music for an anime.
I did a little music video as well so they could see and hear some of the mainstream and lesser artists.
I was quite proud but yet still a bit dissapointed to try and have a conversation with them about the japanese culture and food and all it was was just anime talk....

[primavera♥]

Lol. My good friend is like this. I found jpop from utada hikaru from kingdom hearts. And it branched from there.
Although I watched anime at the time I didn't pay attention to those songs
Even one of my fav jpop artists eiko shimamiya I found from watching vids on yt as opposed to the anime she is well known for (I learned about the anime later)

I have no issue with liking music from anime as obviously the Eiko and other artists often have songs used in anime

Its only depressing when its like my good friend who claims to be a crazy jpop fan when all she really listens to is random songs from animes. She doesn't even know the artists who sing them. Especially since its usually each song from a different artist. Its the song from anime "x" or anime "y" ....and because from time to time I do know some of the artists I try to suggest more but if its not related to an anime she won't listen

I mean. Just call yourself a fan of anime openings and endings as that's all it really seems.
Until maybe they actually become familiar with who sings the songs and the artists

I think I only really dislike is when they say they're HUGE jpop fans which is often.

Just saying they like some jpop I guess is sort of true ...but barely
Its just saying ur a maniacal jpop fan or something when all u listen to is particular songs on repeat and don't know the artists is mildly irritating.
Cuz I mean really. The artists singing these songs like ayu for example are jpop artists.

I had friends who memorized all of dearest somehow without even memorizing what its called or that ayu sings it. And that's how they're like. "Huge fans"


But u know to each their own. Everyone has a different definition of fans.

[Delirium-Zer0]

Yeah, I think when they call themselves "HUGE" jpop fans is when it's most annoying. If you've never heard of Sukiyaki or Ayumi Hamasaki, you're not a huge jpop fan.

Don't call yourself a huge jpop fan if you don't know japanese pop music. That's like saying you're a physicist after watching a few episodes of The Big Bang Theory.

[1LOVE-T]

I know exactly what you mean!
I'll admit, I first got into J-pop from anime, which is actually how I found Ayu (pretty early in the game actually) I listened to more of her and some of the anime songs I liked, until I really concentraited on mainstream.
But nowadays, if you would ask me if I was a J-pop fan, I wouldn't say yes, because I'm not, I'm strictly an Ayu fan. I don't go around calling myself a huge J-pop fan when I only listen to one artist.

[MeltingCORE]

Ah, the whole anime songs thing... Yes, it highly disappoints me to be honest. I love anime but I actaully KNOW the artists and enjoy them! There is so many *cough*weeaboos*cough* in my high school that claim they like Utuda Hikaru but only know her song "Sanctuary", Lia but only know "Tori no Uta", KOTOKO but only know "BLAZE", and so on...

Oh, oh, and I hate when they call it "anime" music! IT IS NOT ANIME MUSIC. It's a song by a artist that happened to be used in a anime!

Gosh, if people want to be real "j-pop" fans they need to go listen to some Ayu and Kuu and so on... Because one or two songs from a anime doesn't qualify you as a "j-pop" fan! Usually they only say that they like J-Pop to be cool anyways... GRR!

[mx3oo]

Originally Posted by ohsixthirty

or like people who think that stupid "butterfly" song from DDR is by ayumi. i mean, seriously?!?!

This drives me insane as well! This assumption has been spreading like a virus.

Originally Posted by teddbear55

But I agree that most North American fans of Japan culture/entertainment/etc come across as Narutards that I don't want to associate with...

Lol, my sister stormed out of the room when I read this line out loud...

[ohsixthirty]

you know, its kind of like meeting a person from japan who says they love western music only to find out that listen to songs from disney movies or something, lol.

[bondingo]

Ugh, tell me about it. AHS and last.fm and things like that have made me think there are plenty of people who know Ayu and other J-Pop, but there really are still plenty of freaks out there who only listen to anime music and think J-Pop is limited to just that. Not people I have any desire whatsoever in socializing with :\

[asmAyumi1992]

There's so many people like that in my place. And we called them as "posers". They just "pose" like they knew everything about Jpop stuff. But, in fact, they just know very slightly, plus, they mostly got the latest news from local mags. For me, I dont believe local mags and it's an old news when it comes to local mags.

It's a bit disappoint for me.

[kendelle]

NEWSFLASH: Anime is Japanese and Japanese pop artists sing these songs, thereby making anime OP and ED songs inclusive of JPOP.

I don't see the problem here. They like music from anime only, so what? *shrug* No reason to be elitist to them just because they haven't diversified their tastes yet.

I eventually got into Jpop via anime music but someone insulting my like for ZARD, Hironobu Kageyama and Field of View would drive me away from ever wanting to become involved in the Jpop fan community.

[Ranma Matsuri]

Originally Posted by kendelle

NEWSFLASH: Anime is Japanese and Japanese pop artists sing these songs, thereby making anime OP and ED songs inclusive of JPOP.

I don't see the problem here. They like music from anime only, so what? *shrug* No reason to be elitist to them just because they haven't diversified their tastes yet.

I eventually got into Jpop via anime music but someone insulting my like for ZARD, Hironobu Kageyama and Field of View would drive me away from ever wanting to become involved in the Jpop fan community.

mte

I'm pretty disappointed reading this thread since yeah, anime was my start and I stayed there for a while but I eventually branched out because well, the music was too good to resist. I'm glad I was in my own little bubble (as in not communicating with J-pop fans) when I did it though. If I had run into someone telling me just because I only knew BoA and DAI from the anime I loved (as if the reason they do song tie-in's in the first place WASN'T for promo ), that I wasn't a "real" J-pop fan and didn't *really* like J-pop music, knowing my temper that would've been an immediate turn off for me. So J-pop for me at one point, was the anime themes I used to hear at the end of an episode... then I discovered the good ol' internet. Quite frankly, I don't see how that's much different from being a fan of only mainstream J-pop artists, or just idols or just J-rock bands (but those people still get to call themselves "J-music fans" right?).

*leaves this thread*

[DA1SUK1DAY01691]

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri

mte

I'm pretty disappointed reading this thread since yeah, anime was my start and I stayed there for a while but I eventually branched out because well, the music was too good to resist. I'm glad I was in my own little bubble (as in not communicating with J-pop fans) when I did it though. If I had run into someone telling me just because I only knew BoA and DAI from the anime I loved (as if the reason they do song tie-in's in the first place WASN'T for promo ), that I wasn't a "real" J-pop fan and didn't *really* like J-pop music, knowing my temper that would've been an immediate turn off for me. So J-pop for me at one point, was the anime themes I used to hear at the end of an episode... then I discovered the good ol' internet. Quite frankly, I don't see how that's much different from being a fan of only mainstream J-pop artists, or just idols or just J-rock bands (but those people still get to call themselves "J-music fans" right?).

I totally get where you're coming from.

The general tone I'm getting, and essentially perpetuating myself, is people who center their whole library around anime themes, and don't even bother to go off and find other sources-- that's what's irritating.

Personally, I think BoA was just a fad (especially at the way she's been handling her career; it doesn't seem like she's rooted anywhere at the moment), but certainly DAI is one of the best Japanese artists in modern history. Fluctuating popularity, yes, but certainly influential.

At least you've found the internet, especially a great forum like this; I feel like no other forum is actually as nice and as giving like this forum. It's great to find/have things before their actual release date, and many of the people here are nice, as well. So don't worry, you're cool.

[SKYia]

I never met anyone who would listen to Japanese music in my country (only some anime fan, the usual) but I managed to introduce Ayu, KinKi Kids and Koda Kumi to some of my students and several friends

[JackieRos]

what's so big about a jpop fan not knowing who ayumi is?
some people in china don't know who Jackie Chan is.

Just because an artist is from your country doesn't necessarily mean that you know all artist from there.

bleh my 2 cents

[mx3oo]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

what's so big about a jpop fan not knowing who ayumi is?
some people in china don't know who Jackie Chan is.

Just because an artist is from your country doesn't necessarily mean that you know all artist from there.

bleh my 2 cents

Well of course, but any fan of Chinese cinema would know who he is. I'm sure a lot of Amish people don't know who Britney Spears or Lady Gaga is, but actual pop fans would.

[mcluva420]

I can totally relate to you
So I go to my school's Japanese club, expecting people to totally know the J-pop music stuff [mainstream]..and all of the people are just anime fans! and only listen to "anime music".. >_< -disappointment- and I don't watch anime or read manga either so i have nothing to say about the topic. I only have a couple friends who actually listen to the non-anime music. x_x BUT all of them are anime/manga fans.
oh, and j-rock seems to be more popular..-still unfamiliar-

i dunno, I understand..but at least i'm not alone

[emi♡]

^omg SAME THING happened to me at St. Marys college of california.

They set up a Japanese club, and I went to the first meeting, which the Japanese teacher went too.

And they pretty much laid straight out that all they do is watch anime. We talked a little about music, but none of them knew who ayu or namie, or anyone else besides utada hikaru was...and they didn't really like me so much because I had only seen "mainstream" animes like Cowboy Bebop.

So we watched...I think TRIGUN? lol And the teacher was just like "ooo what is that? How interesting..." lol It was so funny. I was a little embarrassed though, cause I actually wanted to like...talk about Japanese culture...and I felt like the teacher had expected that too.