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Old 30th August 2011, 09:56 PM
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Yeah, but There is something else behind the fact that avex want her to change her setlist!! If it was only the fan, avex'll do it immidiately & not only for the last show!
I don't know. If this last show is the only one that is recorded, Avex might have intervened more to make sure Ayu's would be a set that could sell DVDs/get viewers.

...Which is not to say that the a-nation DVDs are ever huge sellers, but I imagine Avex stil takes them pretty seriously considering how much is invested in the a-nation brand. That's all speculation, though.



Re: all the the ~dorama: It seems like this year--more than any other year--shows the disparity in preferences between the international fans and Ayu's target demographic.

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I don't know. If this last show is the only one that is recorded, Avex might have intervened more to make sure Ayu's would be a set that could sell DVDs/get viewers.

...Which is not to say that the a-nation DVDs are ever huge sellers, but I imagine Avex stil takes them pretty seriously considering how much is invested in the a-nation brand. That's all speculation, though.
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But the setlist stay the same!! Only her place changed in the list!
& I wonder why JUNO only did one night & not the two last show?
Maybe I think too much, but I don't help me thinking that something is shady in this story!
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Old 30th August 2011, 10:21 PM
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I think she did right in not going for what avex expected. She wasn't the last perofrmer, but she was able to perform the way she wanted to (except for JUNO), I'm glad for that. And having Naoya with her is always a plus, they work really well together!
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Old 30th August 2011, 10:25 PM
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But the setlist stay the same!! Only her place changed in the list!
& I wonder why JUNO only did one night & not the two last show?
Maybe I think too much, but I don't help me thinking that something is shady in this story!
It seems the story is that avex wanted her to change the setlist for the last two shows (and obviously no JUNO on it). She didn't accept that and she was not going to perform, but because there were lots of her fans going to see her, she was able to perform the setlist she wanted, but avex didn't let her be the last artist because of her setlist...
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Old 30th August 2011, 11:02 PM
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I undertsand that!!!But I want to know the real reason about why they wanted to push aside JUNO & change her setlist? Fans disagreed about Naoya singing with her too but he stay!
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Old 30th August 2011, 11:47 PM
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It seems like a possibility that it was an issue of taste issue since JUNO is the twin of one of the Tohoshinki members that left to form another group... and that group is also pending some sort of legal action against avex as well?

Not sure what was happening with that, but ehhh.

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but avex didn't let her be the last artist because of her setlist...
She made the decision herself, not avex. I think in the end, the setlist she wanted to perform was still not the one she ended up performing since Urata had to replace JUNO. I don't think Urata was as much of a problem as people think according to the tweets about Ayu trying to get JUNO to perform for Tokyo and being unsuccessful in convincing avex to allow him into the Tokyo show or whatever.

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Old 31st August 2011, 07:04 AM
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the a-nation drama, it's clearly about JUNO alone.

it's all on the tweets ayu has been tweeting since 27.08.2011.
she even said some complaints went to JUNO then he kept to himself and decided not to go on stage. so i think ayu insisted him to perform with her at first but JUNO himself didn't want to.

ayu also had no idea why avex didn't want JUNO to perform at the time, but not sure if she knows now since she said on her "explanation" tweets that she omitted some parts of what she supposed to say but didn't, maybe that would cause more drama?
i think that avex wanted ayu to perform last, but ayu didn't want to. it seems like ayu said this, "if i can't go on stage with JUNO then i'll just perform the 2nd last... i won't be able to be the last performer" and not to say that ayu thought of herself being last performer is important but it seems it's important to avex because it's been the tradition since previous a-nations.

it's still weird to not have ayu as the closing act like usual. well people can just say, "let's break the tradition" but maybe for avex themselves, it's still important factor?
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I agree with you.
I think Ayu found the thing with JUNO unfair. So, she took that decision!
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Old 31st August 2011, 07:16 PM
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Well, JUNO got #15 on his single, while AAA (with URATA NAOYA) #4...
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Old 31st August 2011, 07:32 PM
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^OT for this thread, but on what terms exactly are you comparing AAA to JUNO? They have nothing in common. AAA doesn't consist of Naoya only, I'm sure you know that. If Naoya had released a solo single then maybe it would make sense to compare, but like this?
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Old 31st August 2011, 07:44 PM
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^^ lol completely irrelevant there.

Here are ayu's tweets about the saga. Not everything was explained in the clearest terms, so it's really up to each of us how we want to interpret the tweets and what we want to believe is the truth...

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meg_onewlove802: @JUNO_Japan Juno-kun, you didn’t come for Tokyo’s a-nation? I was waiting for you (T^T)
JUNO_Japan: Sorry! ヽ(´o`;
ayu_19980408: Sorry…

xiahmayou: @JUNO_Japan I was really looking forward to seeing Juno at a-nation (>_<)
JUNO_Japan: (T ^ T)
ayu_19980408: I really apologize for not being able to accomplish this m(_ _)m I still don’t know what to say even now.

ayu_19980408: What was important was not “how they will look at us” but “how we want to be”. And to be allowed to go through with this belief, everything that happened today happened.

ayumix102: Hamasaki Ayumi has always been the last performer on a-nation until now. Just what was she feeling as she stood on stage today?
ayu_19980408: That was the result of me choosing to hold on to my belief, so I have no regrets. I am just full of thanks towards all the comrades in the troupe!!

momoka07xx_TA: Why resounded in my heart today.
ayu_19980408: Thank you! In order to support me, that person kept all complaints to himself and chose not to appear, and has fought with endless pressure. And because he won the battle, we were able to resound the song in everyone’s hearts. ☆

ayu_romipan: I am always shocked at ayu’s decisions. You would rather sacrifice yourself to protect those people who are precious to you?
ayu_19980408: As long as there is something to protect, I would throw away my pride without the slightest hesitation ♪

masaya_0503: When you said JUNO couldn’t perform, does that mean that he didn’t even have the choice of whether he wanted to sing or not?
ayu_19980408: No. To have his song suddenly ousted from the setlist, who do you think felt hurt the most?… It’s his only wish, so he passed it on to us to sing with all our mights.

moge_5: ayu-chan is not wrong. I’m really glad that you sang the song for him! Looking forward to tomorrow too (^^)
ayu_19980408: Thank you. But tell this to NAO too, he sang with all his heart too (*^^*)

ayumikiko: So why wasn’t this done since Ehime? Why couldn’t JUNO perform only today?
ayu_19980408: I’d really like to know why too.

ayu69maki: Isn’t ayu the one who determines the setlist?
ayu_19980408: The setlists I create don’t always get the OK. There are definitely times when it gets rejected.

ayumikiko: Why does someone else have the right to say no to ayu’s setlist? Why? (´・_・`)
ayu_19980408: Because I am only a part of the company.

12KID13: Rejected? So you were planning to sing Why… with JUNO?
ayu_19980408: Yes ( ´ ▽ ` )ノ Anyway, we will sing with all our mights tomorrow too!!

ayu_19980408: I initially wanted to just write on my blog and talk only with TA, but since even the Tohoshinki fans have gotten mixed up in this, I shall tweet instead. And because everyone just cannot calm down, I’ll explain what really happened. But please let this be the only time I need to talk about this issue.

ayu_19980408: Regarding the rumours about a-nation, it’s roughly what everyone has been speculating about. However, there’s one thing I need to clarify. I was the one who was protesting to the company about various things, and wanted to pull out of the 2 shows at Tokyo. That’s because I feel distrust towards a-nation itself.

ayu_19980408: As for the performance, I puzzled over it till the very last minute. Then, I remembered everyone in the audience who are waiting for me, as well as the comrades and staff and everyone in TA who are fighting with me, and decided to go on stage afterall.

ayu_19980408: Lastly. No matter what happens, Masa has always stayed by me and protected me, regardless of his own position as CEO.

ayu_19980408: Yes, I have left some parts out of this retelling. The reason for my distrust is because of the sudden strong resistance towards my setlist, as well as a lack of respect towards the existence of my respected seniors and my sweet juniors.
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Old 31st August 2011, 07:52 PM
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^Somehow it makes Ayu so relatable - having troubles at work with people telling her what to do - a situation most of us have to face on a regular basis in real life!
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I see, the problem is clear now...
Thanks for the translation misa-chan!!
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After reading her tweets I'm even more proud to be Ayumi fan now.

Thank you very much for the translation, Misa-chan!
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Wasn't the resistance there from the start? Not just when JUNO was added in?
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Wow, I can't believe Ayumi didn't close the show this time. I was wondering what happened.
Why does JYJ have a lawsuit pending against Avex again? I forgot. >.<
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Wow ayu is like a character out of a story, she's so stoic and real this is why i truly love her!
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Thanks for the translation! It's great that she was able to explain some things. I hope this situation can be sorted out. Though I think she should have complete say over her setlists and things like that, especially after all these years
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from yesterday's news

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Hamasaki Ayumi’s Sudden Withdrawal From “Closing Stage” – What Kind Of Discord Was There?

Singer Hamasaki Ayumi (32) revealed via her personal twitter that she chose to back out from doing her annual closing stage, creating an issue. It was said that this was a way of showing objections towards her company Avex, but what exactly happened?

This event in question was organized by Avex, the summer outdoor festival “a-nation.” Hamasaki Ayumi had, aside from the first year, been the closing act for 8 consecutive years, yet she did not do so starting from the 27 August performance in Tokyo, to the surprise of many fans.

■ Feeling of distrust for the event due to co-performer’s appearance termination

Instead of Hamasaki Ayumi, the closing stage was performed by the Korean male idol group who had been reduced from 5 members to 2 members, the reborn “Tohoshinki.” Hamasaki Ayumi performed just before Tohoshinki.

According to reports, the reason given was “convenience of performance” but pre-event materials for the media showed that Hamasaki Ayumi would be the closing act. Because of this, there were many speculations discussed on the internet. There was also the opinion that this was done as a strategy to combat the fact that fans would start leaving after the Tohoshinki performance.

In the three days after the event, replying to questions posed to her, Hamasaki Ayumi explained why she had not been the closing act.

According to this, the a-nation event song setlist had included the song from her mini album to be released on 31 August, with Korean artist Juno (24). Juno is the twin brother of Junsu, one of the members of “JYJ,” the unit that broke away from Tohoshinki. Juno’s appearance was suddenly terminated, and instead AAA’s Urata Naoya (28) who would be performing together with her for another song in her mini-album, would be singing Juno’s song.

Because of this, Hamasaki Ayumi bore distrust for the a-nation event, and showed her objections to the organisers, Avex. She considered pulling out of the performance, but after considering about the fans and staff, she decided to stay. Instead, she requested to pull out from doing the closing act for the two Tokyo performance days.

■ Dissention concerning Tohoshinki a reason?

With regards to her sudden pulling out, Hamasaki Ayumi said “The important thing is not “how can it be seen” but “how to protect it,” and this is the belief that resulted in everything that has happened today,” she explained in her tweet. After her own revelation of this matter, the Tohoshinki fans became confused.

Hamasaki Ayumi did not offer any explanation as to why Juno’s performance was cancelled. But without knowing the actual truth, there were speculations concerning Tohoshinki and the dissention due to the lawsuit between JYJ and their Korean management company SM Entertainment. On the internet, judging from the circumstances, suspicions such as the fact that the SM side had shown their displeasure with the appearance of Juno, brother of JYJ’s Junsu and other similar speculations have surfaced.

SM Entertainment Japan, when asked about this matter, said “As we have entrusted this matter to Avex, please direct your questions to them. As for matters regarding Juno, as he is not managed by our company, we cannot give an answer.”

We tried to contact Avex Entertainment about this, but the spokesperson could not be contacted.

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