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Old 18th September 2011, 04:29 PM
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^^^ What I don't understand is where the difference between JPop and KPop lies.

If I think about popular JPop-artists and popular KPop-artists, then I don't see much difference between them.

And to say that KPop-artists are more talented than their Japanese counterparts is simply a lie.
On both sides there are people who have a lot of talent and others who don't. And if you judge a musician only because of their looks and fashion style, then you're totally on the wrong track!
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Old 18th September 2011, 04:43 PM
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i encounter the same problem... =.=""

well, i think Kpop is just over rated...

i don't hate Kpop, but it just don't appeal to me, what can i do?? Force myself to LOVE Kpop?? crazy people~~
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Old 18th September 2011, 04:55 PM
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^ Nope, everybody likes different things (and that's good!).

If you don't like KPop, then don't go and force yourself to like it. I also don't like it. The only group from Korea I listen to is Tohoshinki and that's because these guys have real talent and are also very nice (the personalities of some KPop-stars are not very...erm...appealing to me! ).
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Old 18th September 2011, 06:27 PM
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Idol making machine?
If you're talking about 'the wave of idols' actually the trigger is AKB48, back in 2010, if you remember. I don't remember which single that makes them become so popular (I think it's Ponytail to Shushu or maybe before that single) and if you realized, after the news of their popularity, so many idols are debuting, including Kpop.

Right after Beginner released, we heard news that solo artists sales are declining. Around that time, lots of Korean artists debuting in Japan, which makes them even more popular than before. Plus, not only Korean artists debuting as well, Japanese idol groups also rising one after another.

I'm not a big fan of AKB48, but they are sure the trigger for the current trends. I know many Korean artists debuting before the rising of AKB48 (Hallyu wave appears in early 2010, I guess), but lots of idols, boybands, and girlbands, surprisingly rising after AKB48 popularity.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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Old 19th September 2011, 05:55 AM
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I totally get what you mean... It's like they'll give you a kind of "shocked stare" if you're not into the KPop trend... Ugh...

I'm only just an occasional fan of Kpop (some are def quite catchy!), but this overwhelming trend here of who's hot or not is really irritating me. My friends around me prefers Kpop as well... try telling them you like Ayu or GACKT, you'll hear nothing but cricket sounds. XD;;;

Sometimes they do try to flood me with Kpop stuff, and seriously I don't like it. Don't force me to listen to something I hate. So, in turn, I know they hate Jrock, I will flood them back with GACKT. Hahaha!! It's my way of "letting them know that's how it feels". And it does work, I think, cuz they've stopped forcing me to follow the trend and learn to respect my choices.

(To be honest, I think Jrock fans are totally feeling even more outcasted than Jpop fans over here...it's really like the minority!!)

But all in all, I've convinced myself that I'm unique with what I choose & love to listen to, and that's what sets me apart from the trend followers who follows blindly (well not all...but you get what I mean...). Well, I never liked trends in the first place... lol.
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Old 19th September 2011, 10:43 AM
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I dont have any friend/person who i can talk to about ayu too nowdays.*at least i have this forum*.. but she is still my one and only singer which i would spend $$$ for her album/single/etc.

My friend would talk about the K-pop thing.. but meh.. I am not really cares,
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Old 19th September 2011, 12:16 PM
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I dont have any friend/person who i can talk to about ayu too nowdays.*at least i have this forum*.. but she is still my one and only singer which i would spend $$$ for her album/single/etc.

My friend would talk about the K-pop thing.. but meh.. I am not really cares,
I feel you actually..until a certain point of my life when i finally realize i had this ONE friend that likes ayu. we arnt that close coz we only speak online..so it still feels as though there isnt really anyone.

it totally rocks if your closest friends who at least bother sometimes. even if they are not ardent fans, if they show some interest and even respond well to it, the feeling is awesome.
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Old 19th September 2011, 12:45 PM
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I feel you actually..until a certain point of my life when i finally realize i had this ONE friend that likes ayu. we arnt that close coz we only speak online..so it still feels as though there isnt really anyone.

it totally rocks if your closest friends who at least bother sometimes. even if they are not ardent fans, if they show some interest and even respond well to it, the feeling is awesome.
I feel the same too.... I don't have any close friends who likes ayu... yes, thank god we have this forum... And i felt quite a sense of belonging when attending Arena tour next level movie in sg...
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I dont have any friend/person who i can talk to about ayu too nowdays.*at least i have this forum*.. but she is still my one and only singer which i would spend $$$ for her album/single/etc.

My friend would talk about the K-pop thing.. but meh.. I am not really cares,
so do i,i used to have my close friend who loved ayu..
but recently he lost interest with her n the only reason is she is looks like aunty in his opinion...no that kawaiii anymore...
now he's turnin out to be namie fans...
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Old 19th September 2011, 11:57 AM
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yupyup, actually my point is not to discuss about Jpop Vs Kpop. or who is better etc...

it's just to highlight how insensitive those seasonal kpop fans could be... And most of them actually migrated from CPOP....
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Old 20th September 2011, 01:06 AM
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yupyup, actually my point is not to discuss about Jpop Vs Kpop. or who is better etc...

it's just to highlight how insensitive those seasonal kpop fans could be... And most of them actually migrated from CPOP....
if they had iPhones and loves lady gaga then I wouldnt say that they're kpop fans. they're just followers who follow blindly with the taste of other ppl ^^ (no offense to the product n artist but these are the craze in sg ><)
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Old 19th September 2011, 01:35 PM
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^i went there alone. that was how pathetic it was zzz..i thought someone would be there for me but...

and i really cant stand superficial fans =.=
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Old 19th September 2011, 02:40 PM
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Well my friends are rather ok.. they do know i'm not into kpop though the number of korean songs i have in my phone has increased to 5 after returning from Korea. So anyway as long as they are not brainwashing me to love kpop i'm ok with it... though it is sad that I have yet to find a close friend that likes Jpop as much as I do... Now this is the time that i will kill to have my friend's elder brother and sister (they are from the Jpop era! i don't get how come my friend isn't into Jpop with both of them there 'brainwashing' her)
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Old 19th September 2011, 05:04 PM
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my working area/house is dominated by kpop too....

I'm working in Best Denki(JAPANESE electronic shop) outlet, but for the past year ALL LCD/laptop/TV... speaker are blasting kpop. So when i get to hog the speaker, i'll blast my JPOP songs(kuu/ayu or AKB48)

while at home, my sis is a die hard 2AM/2PM/BEAST fan...whenever the artist came here, she will rent a van and chase wherever they go. and blasting her kpop all over, everything she watches in korean.... oh well, but at least she used to listen to jpop, so she's not rubbing me about my jpop stuff. in fact, she's still going to ayu R'n'R Circus 3D movie with me on 1st oct.

sometimes, i find that its better not to bash others when they keep listening to kpop, respect them and they will respect you too.
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Old 19th September 2011, 05:29 PM
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I actually respect all my friends who listen to KPOP. Like i never insult K music... The problem is when you mention ayu/jpop, they'll give u the strange look and say, "Isn't ayumi outdated already??".. Listen to snsd la! they are way better..."

Then i'm like, WTH??? -_-
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Old 20th September 2011, 12:46 PM
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I actually respect all my friends who listen to KPOP. Like i never insult K music... The problem is when you mention ayu/jpop, they'll give u the strange look and say, "Isn't ayumi outdated already??".. Listen to snsd la! they are way better..."

Then i'm like, WTH??? -_-
I think snsd is really just a trend....
I rather listen to other korean groups whose songs do not consist of repeating english words
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Old 19th September 2011, 06:26 PM
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^ SNSD better than Ayu?! Please...!
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Old 20th September 2011, 11:25 AM
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^ SNSD better than Ayu?! Please...!
LOL, my reaction was kinda same. haha. Those Seasonal kpop fans are actually not true Kpop lovers.
They just listen to Kpop cos it makes them look "COOL" or "IN TREND"

Not to mention music only... The H&M trend is soooo.....
Singaporeans are really singaporeans..

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LOL, my reaction was kinda same. haha. Those Seasonal kpop fans are actually not true Kpop lovers.
They just listen to Kpop cos it makes them look "COOL" or "IN TREND"

Not to mention music only... The H&M trend is soooo.....
Singaporeans are really singaporeans..
yea i have friends to start listening to K-pop just because everyone around them is.

but firstly, i need to say another reason why im irritated. its that because, I already begun listening to k-pop BEFORE all the Hallyu madness. I tried to recommend my friends songs from J-pop. it failed. then when I felt that K-pop is on the rise, and i started recommending, it also failed. And then after everything, now THEY are the ones getting interested and wanting to know a little more here and there. It's just so =.=...like..just because it helps you to be able to bridge a convo with other people, so you listen to k-pop..omgawd.

(and yea..LOL @ the H&M thing..same went for UNIQLO)
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Old 20th September 2011, 06:17 PM
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yea i have friends to start listening to K-pop just because everyone around them is.

but firstly, i need to say another reason why im irritated. its that because, I already begun listening to k-pop BEFORE all the Hallyu madness. I tried to recommend my friends songs from J-pop. it failed. then when I felt that K-pop is on the rise, and i started recommending, it also failed. And then after everything, now THEY are the ones getting interested and wanting to know a little more here and there. It's just so =.=...like..just because it helps you to be able to bridge a convo with other people, so you listen to k-pop..omgawd.

(and yea..LOL @ the H&M thing..same went for UNIQLO)
Yea man!!!! Worst still, in the past, when i was listening to Jpop, friends kept asking me why do i listen to a language which I don't really understand. Now they themselves are so into Kpop!! (they used to be into Cpop) This makes me feel irritated too.. hahaha.

And to make such an immature statement like "SNSD is better than ayu" is so -_-... I find this quite insulting and rude actually... haha
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