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Old 17th January 2012, 01:50 AM
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^ From the way I see it, there's years for people to feel pumped up about being "right" all this time and to boast about how it was never gonna happen.

12 hours after the announcement is just not that time for fans to do that. It's rude.
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Old 17th January 2012, 01:54 AM
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You're also giving off a "holier than thou" attitude, so you really are no better, or a better fan. I'm sure most people who said they "saw it coming" were not bragging, but were just stating how they felt. I'm not happy that I was "right", I would prefer to have been proven wrong. When she was getting married I was happy she was happy, but due to the circumstances I was skeptical based on how celebrity marriages tend to go. I didn't hate Mannie, I didn't care to know all the details of her marriage and I still don't. I just wish Ayu and even Mannie all the best.
*shrug* Don't really care how you think I sound, I just find it silly that some people wouldn't take the explanation into consideration instead of just looking at the subject line and posting based on that.
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Old 17th January 2012, 01:58 AM
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I was skeptical about this marriage like some. But of course, I did not want to doubt Ayu, and hoped that should would be happy in the marriage. If you had thought about it reasonably, you could have see that this was not going to be a sound relationship; the husband and wife had barely even known each other when they got married. Though this may be a tough moment for Ayu, it is for the best, and I'm sure she will come back stronger than ever. Here's to a great 2012 and a new top-selling album!
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Old 17th January 2012, 02:17 AM
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^ From the way I see it, there's years for people to feel pumped up about being "right" all this time and to boast about how it was never gonna happen.

12 hours after the announcement is just not that time for fans to do that. It's rude.
I dunno, it seems weird to me to be pumped up for years about being right when a celebrity gets divorced. Right now as its happening seems to be the time to talk about it. I also don't see it as rude to say that you are not surprised. Its an honest feeling, and many of these posts don't seem to have a malicious intent when they express their lack of surprise. As long as the posts don't say they are happy she got divorced and that they are wishing the best for her I don't see it as rude. Perhaps being smartass is a bit rude, but they may not be hardcore Ayu fans, just casual listeners, and they have a right to an opinion, too.

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*shrug* Don't really care how you think I sound, I just find it silly that some people wouldn't take the explanation into consideration instead of just looking at the subject line and posting based on that.
If you don't care then why bother replying? I did read the whole post, personally, that had the explanation as to why she decided to get divorced, and to me it seemed like the main reason most famous people get divorced: lack of time to spend with each other. Honestly, when any celebrity gets married, not just Ayu, I have my feelings of doubt and hope that they realize that marriage takes time to make it work. My lack of surprise had nothing to do with Mannie or Ayu specifically. Just because someone doesn't explain all that in their post doesn't mean they didn't read the full story. They have no obligation to offer a reason as to why they are not surprised.
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Old 17th January 2012, 02:26 AM
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I had hoped that Ayu would be happy but I always doubted this marriage as well. Honestly, she barely knew Mannie and then BAM, they got married. Plus does he speak Japanese? I've found that relationships where both parties have to speak a second language rarely go well.

I am really upset for her though and hope that she will be happy in the future and that she is happy now. Perhaps this is a good thing for her and a weight lifted off her shoulders. She was stuck in something unhappy and now she is free and hopefully will find true love! It's sad to see a marriage end, but this one was pretty quick and I had weird feelings about it, so I hope this is a good thing from it and she can only go uphill from here!
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Old 17th January 2012, 02:27 AM
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Well the good thing is she probably make a great album about heartbreak like Adele, but i think thats not the case lol.
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Old 17th January 2012, 02:30 AM
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Honestly, I don't get the vibe that it's heartbreak. They both grew apart and I doubt they were really THAT close to begin with simply because they didn't really know each other too long.

I think the best thing for her now is to make happy songs and be positive and not make sad heartbreak songs!^^
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Old 17th January 2012, 02:31 AM
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i understand the reason
although tbh i hope that there is some way to fix it...but all is too late...
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Old 17th January 2012, 02:36 AM
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Old 17th January 2012, 02:38 AM
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I knew it! Maybe it's because it's hard for ayu to communicate in English with him LOL. Anyway even my parents can foresee; one is a rich superstar and the other is a struggling unknown model, think Halle Berrry and Gabriel Aubry. Money talks. We can be naive but please, even JLo has to give her new dancer BF $10,000 a week coz she's tired of paying so he can use that money to pay for their dinner. LOL!
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see, long distance doesn't work. hope you stay strong Ayu...
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:01 AM
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I only saw 1 post that was "I knew they were getting divorced, HURRAY! I was right!!!!" kind of post. Anyone else who said they saw it happening didn't mean it in a happy way, I'm sure. I certainly wasn't trying to pump up egos, or make it about myself. People saying otherwise seem to be pumping their own egos, feeling like "better" fans or something :/
I agree with you, i think most of us stated that whitout cheering and screaming "they're divorced yaaaaaaaaay i'm so happy" at least on my behalf.

Also, as far as i'm concerned this site is called "forum" for a reason. To express our opinions.I'm pretty sure we don't mean to discomfort anybody, but we also have the right to express our thoughts and as long we don't bash Ayu or Mannie, there is nothing wrong with saying what we think. If you think that attitude is "smartass" because we saw before ayu's relationship could end like this, with all due respect it's your choice.

Personally, i'm not gonna apologize (yes, it's hard and sad going through this process, but im pretty sure ayu will learn from this experience and make great music like she's always done, and Mannie will go on with his hollywood rising career) for thinking this was not a surprise due to distances, because i'm not saying anything or rude or mean, just my opinion about how i see things.
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:03 AM
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I agree with you, i think most of us stated that whitout cheering and screaming "they're divorced yaaaaaaaaay i'm so happy" at least on my behalf.

Also, as far as i'm concerned this site is called "forum" for a reason. To express our opinions.I'm pretty sure we don't mean to discomfort anybody, but we also have the right to express our thoughts and as long we don't bash Ayu or Mannie, there is nothing wrong with saying what we think. If you think that attitude is "smartass" because we saw before ayu's relationship could end like this, with all due respect it's your choice.

Personally, i'm not gonna apologize (yes, it's hard and sad going through this process, but im pretty sure ayu will learn from this experience and make great music like she's always done, and Mannie will go on with his hollywood rising career) for thinking this was not a surprise due to distances, because i'm not saying anything or rude or mean, just my opinion about how i see things.
I think the fans who were happy about the divorce ruined it for all the unsurprised fans. We are unsurprised, not happy.
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:04 AM
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*shrug* Don't really care how you think I sound, I just find it silly that some people wouldn't take the explanation into consideration instead of just looking at the subject line and posting based on that.
Do you really think the earthquake is the sole reason for their divorce? We'll never really know...

She'd still be away extended periods for touring and promo even if she lived in LA
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:09 AM
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I feel terrible for Ayu, but as terrible as things are
this means ayu = sad = awesome depressing music = i love it
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I dont think it had anything to do with the fact that she is a superstar and he isnt...how insulting to the both of them.

imo it had to do with the fact that she was supposed to come here, and for whatever reason, she didnt.

Mannie obviously wants to make his own way here, Ayu wants to be in Japan...so, their lives are just different.
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:32 AM
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Just wish both Ayu and Mannie good luck and remain as friends.
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:33 AM
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Just wish both Ayu and Mannie good luck and remain as friends.
same here...i just want them both to be happy.
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:33 AM
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I dont think it had anything to do with the fact that she is a superstar and he isnt...how insulting to the both of them.

imo it had to do with the fact that she was supposed to come here, and for whatever reason, she didnt.

Mannie obviously wants to make his own way here, Ayu wants to be in Japan...so, their lives are just different.
I'm sorry but i'm pretty sure it DID have something to do with that, especially when its the MAN who's career is worse than the woman's it causes a sense of inferiority most men cannot cope with, and besides Manny (IMO) is never gunna make it in hollywood, he's already 30 and has had no breaks in the industry, and in the modelling world 25 is considered too old to book.
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I think the fans who were happy about the divorce ruined it for all the unsurprised fans. We are unsurprised, not happy.
Best quote. Most of us never saw this working, but then most of that most hoped we'd be proved wrong and this would work.

It seems from her messages she's known for a while it won't work out which makes a lot of what we saw of her the latter part of 2011 sad.

The most insulting messages here are the whole 'long distance relationships don't work' things. A lot actually do. This has been a factor in Ayu's breakup in the way that infidelity, different personalities, basic crud etc have broken up other relationships.
My own first paragraph states none of us where surprised. This was due to the speed, not the distance. In a celeb romance seperation is a huge factor. It seems from her posts Ayu is using it as a reason whilst also (quite subtly and cleverly in spite of her advanced basic English) hinting they've got different life interests.

It's not a meet, marry, divorce kind of marriage to me. They loved each other, but it seems from Ayu's posts their other passions have taken centre stage.

Good luck to them both.
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