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Old 9th February 2013, 04:57 PM
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LOL You guys are a trip! I loved Party Queen regardless. It was about exploring new venues in music generes. It's like saying pop is all queen. Let me pray for something like Party Queen next time!
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Old 9th February 2013, 06:43 PM
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Old 9th February 2013, 08:15 PM
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i blame secret-guilty... not enough change between albums and people were turned off by the blahness of guilty... lol
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Old 10th February 2013, 01:05 AM
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I think it was A BEST 2. There was high expectations for that album and 1 million copies were shipped each...but it only sold around 700k leaving 300k unsold (equivalent of a platinum certification) That is baaaaaaad
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Old 9th February 2013, 08:18 PM
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if only guilty wasn't orange
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Old 9th February 2013, 08:32 PM
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first, nothing could really save that cover (lol) and the music just wasn't there. We got some really good stuff off both of them, but just looking at the albums going from 1 to another I dont think there was enough change to please fans and they are both so different from My story and missunderstood which were completely different from I am, rainbow, memorial address.
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Old 10th February 2013, 12:54 AM
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i think it coz every1 in japan read ur posts, TeamAyu2003, wehn GUILTEY came out n realizded ur divine opinion on an album wud determine whethre or not they bought it!!! so rly it is UR fault TeamAyu2002!!!!
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You guys are really blaming Guilty? That's kind of a laugh... the album sold very well compared to Secret. If anything, between (m)u and Secret is when this started.
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Old 10th February 2013, 01:07 AM
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^^ i was blaming guilty for the drops in 2008 since that was the album that was released then. But if you want to blame an album for drop in sales, it REALLY started with I am and Rainbow... lol
I am had slightly less sales then Duty, but rainbow had almost a million sales less then I am... thats where her decline really started, lol.
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Old 10th February 2013, 01:13 AM
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^^ i was blaming guilty for the drops in 2008 since that was the album that was released then. But if you want to blame an album for drop in sales, it REALLY started with I am and Rainbow... lol
I am had slightly less sales then Duty, but rainbow had almost a million sales less then I am... thats where her decline really started, lol.
Weeell yeah xD Though I don't blame that as the point where it really started since the next albums all sold around the 1 million mark. Singles wise... it was during &, right?
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Old 10th February 2013, 01:23 AM
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I think & was her last single to sell 500K.
Im not saying her sales were bad during I am - miss, they were just steadily declining.
But a drop from missunderstood - secret - guilty is pretty big. the bigger drop was between missunderstood and secret, but another pretty big drop was from guilty to next level. I was saying that guilty was just not a big enough change from secret to keep some people interested.
It was a lot like the I am to rainbow albums... there wasn't a big enough change and she lost almost a million album sales.
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Old 10th February 2013, 01:38 AM
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Ayu's sales were pretty nice up until 2011 honestly with Love Songs (counts for 2011) and FIVE. I think if she had just continued to do proper eras with singles and some TV lives as usual the sales would've been better now. Also that whole Timmy/Maro thing recently probably hurt her a bit as well.
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Old 10th February 2013, 01:56 AM
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A Best 2 sold very well. A Best 2 sold a combined 1.5 million units.

In Japan, amongst Ayu fans there's something called Bold & Delicious shock (ボルデリショック = boruderishock). Bold & Delicious was the turning point when many fans thought she lost her marbles, and many people started hating her. If you google the japanese, you can find many people talking about it LOL

So in fact, this hasn't been going on for just 1 or 2 years, but ever since 2005. With the advent of itunes and other ways of getting music, people just dont want to buy her things.
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Old 10th February 2013, 08:22 AM
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A Best 2 sold very well. A Best 2 sold a combined 1.5 million units.

In Japan, amongst Ayu fans there's something called Bold & Delicious shock (ボルデリショック = boruderishock). Bold & Delicious was the turning point when many fans thought she lost her marbles, and many people started hating her. If you google the japanese, you can find many people talking about it LOL

So in fact, this hasn't been going on for just 1 or 2 years, but ever since 2005. With the advent of itunes and other ways of getting music, people just dont want to buy her things.
I heard about that back when it happened. Bold & Delicious wasn't really Ayu's style at all and the single sales reflect all that as well. If they went with another single back at the time, (miss)understood might've sold a million.
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Old 10th February 2013, 08:32 AM
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I heard about that back when it happened. Bold & Delicious wasn't really Ayu's style at all and the single sales reflect all that as well. If they went with another single back at the time, (miss)understood might've sold a million.
I definitely agree with you. The singles before B&D/P all sold on par to the level of MY STORY's singles, so I think Ayu's marketing team should've not released that single, or chose better songs for it (I think a Ladies night/Pride would've been amazing).
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Old 10th February 2013, 10:36 AM
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I definitely agree with you. The singles before B&D/P all sold on par to the level of MY STORY's singles, so I think Ayu's marketing team should've not released that single, or chose better songs for it (I think a Ladies night/Pride would've been amazing).
I think rainy day/Ladies night would've made a better single over-all even though I love Pride so much.

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Bold & Delicious is awesome and I for one am glad she released it as a single. I like when she does things that shows she isn't afraid of not always appealing to the public.
I don't mind her releasing it, but back at the time I was shocked as well.
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Old 11th February 2013, 04:47 AM
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I think rainy day/Ladies night would've made a better single over-all even though I love Pride so much.
I was actually self-debating on whether Pride or rainy day should've been on the single lol! A Pride/rainy day would've been ballad overload after HEAVEN, so I just stuck with Pride in the end because it was already on it .
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Old 10th February 2013, 02:03 AM
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A few more fans preordered the album this time it seems, but the general audience ain't buying her albums as much anymore. Expected, but sad. I can't see ayu going kpop generic, she'll stick to her music styles and her words for ever, which makes me happy but it isn't gonna improve her sales anytime soon.
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Old 10th February 2013, 02:12 AM
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Bold and Delicious was the first single where I really said WTF?
lol... I can the JPN fans inventing a word for it.. lol
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Old 10th February 2013, 02:32 AM
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why what was wrong with Bold and Delicious single
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Old 10th February 2013, 02:37 AM
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the song is just ridiculous... lol.
It was nothing like she had done before or since (thank goodness).
When it first came out I couldnt listen to it at all... Not like listen to it when its on my itunes, but its not in my top 100 or anything.
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