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Old 31st May 2013, 05:21 PM
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Good question ...
maybe she always wanted to have 50 singles and that's it...

hm or maybe avex really think so with that mini album/ album thing it's better
to hold the sales
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I believe she will keep going on release like this: "mini-albums", digital downloads and albums. So, I am not expecting any single-releases in future.
I wouldn't think so. Those mini-albums cost a lot more than a single, and after the crap of having nothing unique to the mini-albums except for a few remixes, I'm sure fans won't fall for buying them again on the expectation that everything will be on the album two months later.

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She will have to eventually if she wants to keep on releasing music and doing well. Singles promote your ass, and they are a good way to promote your ass, that's why they're so popular in Japan at least and sell as much or more than physical albums!

And if loses her streak would actually help I think, she would release singles without having to worry about that.
I think this is where her sales really fell hard and we started seeing things like (miss)understood selling 900,000 copies then Secret only selling 600,000 then GUILTY barely cracking 580,000 then NEXT LEVEL topping out at 350,000, RnRC coming in at 300,000, Ls coming in at 270,000. It sucks, but what really started hurting her sales was only having one or two singles every year. If you look at the drops, her biggest percentage drops started around the time she reduced the number of singles she was releasing every year. And now... from Ls with 3 singles and 270,000 in sales to PQ with no singles and 145,000 in sales, to La with no singles and only ~90,000 in sales. Those are HUGE drops that correlate with little promotion. So, I hope she gets back on track and really enjoys releasing new music again, because she seems to be falling backwards and getting bored with being a musician.
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Old 31st May 2013, 05:30 PM
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I think this is where her sales really fell hard and we started seeing things like (miss)understood selling 900,000 copies then Secret only selling 600,000 then GUILTY barely cracking 580,000 then NEXT LEVEL topping out at 350,000, RnRC coming in at 300,000, Ls coming in at 270,000. It sucks, but what really started hurting her sales was only having one or two singles every year. If you look at the drops, her biggest percentage drops started around the time she reduced the number of singles she was releasing every year. And now... from Ls with 3 singles and 270,000 in sales to PQ with no singles and 145,000 in sales, to La with no singles and only ~90,000 in sales. Those are HUGE drops that correlate with little promotion. So, I hope she gets back on track and really enjoys releasing new music again, because she seems to be falling backwards and getting bored with being a musician.
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she NEEDS to release singles if she wants to continue her career. she can't always go on with mini-albums, it's just ridiculous!! with all that 5-releases thing she showed us that she can release 1 mini-album, 2 mini-album and then combine them into usual album. I think all her fans learnt this lesson well so we can expect even bigger drop in sales if she dares to release one more mini-album.
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Old 31st May 2013, 05:41 PM
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So, I hope she gets back on track and really enjoys releasing new music again, because she seems to be falling backwards and getting bored with being a musician.
I know Ayu has constantly expressed that without music, she wouldn't be alive...but I agree with you on the thought of her being bored of making music now. She's been doing this for 15 years straight.
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Old 31st May 2013, 05:52 PM
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Singles, minialbums, albums: they're all different ways to sell music, but without promotions, they're all pretty useless for me.
Don't know what they'll decide to do, but I'm just praying they make an effort to promote it, 'cause people will have to know about something before deciding it's worth buying or not.
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Old 31st May 2013, 06:02 PM
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She lost her streak so
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ayu shouldn't care about her streak of consecutive number one singles as it will be broken by akb in 1.5 year (they have 18 now and they need 7 more and as they release 5 singles per year, I guess it will take about 1.5 year)
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Her album streak is gone, its time for her single streak, too. Avex needs to get over it. Ayu isn't at her peak anymore. No more "mini-albums" and "Summer Bests". You can't dodge the bullet forever, Avex. Plus, you're run out of tricks. There is nothing left you can do.
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ayu shouldn't care about her streak of consecutive number one singles as it will be broken by akb in 1.5 year (they have 18 now and they need 7 more and as they release 5 singles per year, I guess it will take about 1.5 year)
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Her album streak is gone, its time for her single streak, too. Avex needs to get over it. Ayu isn't at her peak anymore. No more "mini-albums" and "Summer Bests". You can't dodge the bullet forever, Avex. Plus, you're run out of tricks. There is nothing left you can do.
Agreed

And AKB48 is really more concerning to Ayu fans more and more... I just don't know when AKB will lose steam, but it might not be before the consecutive streak could be broken by the end of 2014, unless Ayu releases another physical single within the next year or so...

(And I did not even know about the single streak count until just today)
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the only way to compete is to start releasing again. why can't avex do they best and find the most secure dates for her? they always did it, why not do it again?

but yeah, everything must be very complicated nowadays. it's like she's reached her expiry date.... and nobody's willing to work with her again.
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the only way to compete is to start releasing again. why can't avex do they best and find the most secure dates for her? they always did it, why not do it again?

but yeah, everything must be very complicated nowadays. it's like she's reached her expiry date.... and nobody's willing to work with her again.
I've always wondered if it was because Avex was worried that fans only bought the singles to help her streak. Her singles were never really worth buying, as all the content almost always ended up on an album. Plus, by not releasing they can still have the opportunity to continue the streak, and by holding out if and when they do release a single it will sell because fans would be "starved". I don't know if that's the case, just a thought. Even if they tried for "safe" dates, competition could come along unexpectedly. They can't always push releases back, or plan for unexpected hits.

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why are y'all blaming avex for this rofl

ayu called L her "last fortress" for a reason and i dobt she's sitting on a bunch of 51st 52nd 53rd etc singles and avex is like "NO U OLD SAGGY **** WE WILL NOT RELEASE THESE FOR U"

its obv ayu's decision all the way just like premuch every other weird/illogical thng in her career. wutever? i need to pie -.-!
Well, not all decisions are up to Ayu. She's also said that herself. Unless she feels strongly about releasing a single, I doubt she would go against Avex. Also, it could be Ayu who doesn't want to release the single, I won't rule that out. I guess fans just think that Ayu is "so over" the streak thing, and that its Avex who would be the most concerned with preserving it, for whatever reason.
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she's so fixated about the no# streak I highly doubt it
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she's so fixated about the no# streak I highly doubt it
Yeah, exactly. It's pretty obvious LOVE and again were released as "mini albums" just so that they wouldn't ruin her streak.
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Yeah, exactly. It's pretty obvious LOVE and again were released as "mini albums" just so that they wouldn't ruin her streak.
That would mean ayu has such a lack of confidence in herself that she thinks she won't sell well and such pride that she refuses to lose her streak. I refuse to believe that, I really do. If that is ever proven as fact, I will lose a lot of respect for her.
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That would mean ayu has such a lack of confidence in herself that she thinks she won't sell well and such pride that she refuses to lose her streak. I refuse to believe that, I really do. If that is ever proven as fact, I will lose a lot of respect for her.
And tha's EXACTLY why I CAN'T believe it's her fixation, but I'm strongly lend to believe it's Avex's. Her last marketing decisions wouldn't make sense, for the person Ayu is, so for me it's pretty obvious her label took them.
I mean, on one side we have Ayu, who says sales don't matter for her anymore and hint that she doesn't really want to release singles anymore, and on the other side we have three releases which are made for MONEY (let's be realistic) and two of which have clearly the single format.
I think it's understandable why people tend to bash Avex and believe it's not really Ayu decision.
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And tha's EXACTLY why I CAN'T believe it's her fixation, but I'm strongly lend to believe it's Avex's. Her last marketing decisions wouldn't make sense, for the person Ayu is, so for me it's pretty obvious her label took them.
I mean, on one side we have Ayu, who says sales don't matter for her anymore and hint that she doesn't really want to release singles anymore, and on the other side we have three releases which are made for MONEY (let's be realistic) and two of which have clearly the single format.
I think it's understandable why people tend to bash Avex and believe it's not really Ayu decision.
I agree with you. It's more possible it's avex's decision. But one comment here said "SHE is so fixated on her streak." It makes her sound pathetic.
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I just see this as ayu taking a little break while still working. Shes still doing what she love but not being chained to public appearences and avex so much. Ayus no longer a hot topic but thats because something new will always take the publics eye, but she still has her stand in the music world
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^Well, nowadays believing the single won't sell good isn't lack of self confidence, is being unbiased
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^Whats "unsiaded?" Sorry for my bad vocab xD
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She needs to release it!! I want to see her do more promotions too.
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