Ayu Twitter/Weibo Discussion #31

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Not feeling bad for Ayu and so on due to the reasons stated, if that wasn't clear.

Ah, okay. That's totally fine. I really didn't expect anyone to feel the same, really.

[Andrenekoi]

The photobook's name is "Super Love"... This makes me think all of them are couples, and IMO this adds one more layer of "fucked up":

If the boys posing together are couples, Leslie just outed them without they wanting it.
If the boys posing together weren't couples, now people think they are...

Either option annoys me.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

The photobook's name is "Super Love"... This makes me think all of them are couples, and IMO this adds one more layer of "fucked up":

If the boys posing together are couples, Leslie just outed them without they wanting it.
If the boys posing together weren't couples, now people think they are...

Either option annoys me.

They are couples, friends, colleagues, etc. He mentions that it's not all couples in his posts about it from a few months ago.

[njanjayrp]

The pictures were bound to leak online sooner or later. It's like people shooting private porn videos, it eventually leaks no matter who they are...

[SKYia]

I seriously think he overuses the word 'super', it's usually the first english word kids know in my country (side by side with 'ok' and 'headshot') and it's kind of lame to see him adding it everywhere, and with the Super Love he really does suggest too much.

I was surprised about Ayu's shock at first especially since she posed naked with her dancers herself in the AT13 pamphlet. Besides, at first I thought it was Peco who leaked the photos because she was the first one to share the YT making of movie on FB but them I saw it was actually Leslie's YT account, not hers.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by SKYia

I seriously think he overuses the word 'super', it's usually the first english word kids know in my country (side by side with 'ok' and 'headshot') and it's kind of lame to see him adding it everywhere, and with the Super Love he really does suggest too much.

Japanese people do that with english words though.


I also find the photobook thing weird, but Japan also has a weird thing about photobooks.

Spammed all over the damn place.

Even my favorite model has like one a year. At least.

So it might just be something we don't understand the same way.

[tasking]

Leslie isn't Japanese though.... but I guess he mostly caters to that market?

[EnergizE]

Not sure you will get the video this time...

On the last messages (before the Leslie Kee drama), it was clearly written "The pictures are provided only to you all at Team AYU." so I guess it is the same for the video...

[Ayu-me]

Anyone know who the guy in the video is? He's not Japanese, Ayu spoke English with him and explained the meaning of the Japanese word "kakkoii", and he said that he loves it every time he works with her.
The video itself doesn't really have anything new song-wise, it sounds almost identical to the previous one except for the finishing beats maybe, so non-TA people aren't really missing out on much except for Ayu speaking English (and the pong-game that was shown on a screen, perhaps as a screensaver, haha).

[ayumisrael]

Yeah, things from Team ayu's diary are forbbiden being posted anywhere, unless they get publicated somewhere else by official means and then can be shared.

[mi|kshake]

But, after Super Mannie, how were her dancers fooled?

Yes, I was wondering what they were expecting too?

Either way, I think the 'gift' was kind of in poor taste, haha. Whether it was Leslie's or her troupe's idea, it just seems like a weird choice when it's public knowledge that Ayu didn't react well the last time she was handed a book of her loved ones in the nude.

Also, I am a bit confused as to why this was a "gift" to Ayumi? I personally wouldn't want any naked pictures of my friends or work colleagues. That would be weird!

The pictures were bound to leak online sooner or later. It's like people shooting private porn videos, it eventually leaks no matter who they are...

I agree. When someone is filming or taking photos of you using their own equipment, IMO it's their property sadly. I'm always surprised that celebs are shocked when their tapes leak online...what were they expecting?

Same with Facebook if my friends, or say a nightclub I'm in, is taking pictures of me, I'm full expecting them to appear on Facebook the next day. The photos are on their camera after all. (In the nightclub's case they picture will be uploaded in order to promote their club. Not much I can do about it and I'm happy for the photo to appear as I agreed, however drunkenly, to have it taken...does that make sense?)

Anyway, will be interesting to see how this whole "drama" progresses.

[kinix]

Originally Posted by mi|kshake

I agree. When someone is filming or taking photos of you using their own equipment, IMO it's their property sadly. I'm always surprised that celebs are shocked when their tapes leak online...what were they expecting?

Same with Facebook if my friends, or say a nightclub I'm in, is taking pictures of me, I'm full expecting them to appear on Facebook the next day. The photos are on their camera after all. (In the nightclub's case they picture will be uploaded in order to promote their club. Not much I can do about it and I'm happy for the photo to appear as I agreed, however drunkenly, to have it taken...does that make sense?)

Anyway, will be interesting to see how this whole "drama" progresses.

It matters when the person is a professional photographer and he said that it'll only be a private shooting and those photos will not be shared publicly. Which part of this do you guys didn't get? 'TRUST', 'PROFESSIONALISM', 'ETHICS' get it? Leslie told them that it's a surprise for ayu's 15th anniversary. But he used their photos and published it for his own 15th anniversary book for SALE. If you still can't get into the situation, just imagine that you shared a secret with somebody and he/she promised to kept it a secret. But he/she obviously didn't. Now how would you feel? If you still think that it isn't a big deal, you obviously have some serious problem here.

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

The pictures were bound to leak online sooner or later. It's like people shooting private porn videos, it eventually leaks no matter who they are...

I haven seen the contents for AYUREADY special boxset which was specially made for ayu yet. Unless you've seen it, please let us know.

[waterballoon]

putting myself in Ayu's shoes, I'm naturally angry at such a progression regarding the situation.

I don't believe or think she's capable of "fishing" this one out. Leslie is one sick (and bad) photographer.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Well he did f'd up progress' pv in every way possible. Maybe namie is paying him to ruin ayu's career

[Mirrorcle Monster]

Oh my god, this "exclusive super fan clubs" ruin the whole fan experience, which would be seeing the video all together and sharing our thoughts and feelings. Instead, only a bunch of rich (or japanese) fans who can afford it (or can get any benefit from it) can access to the content. I dont know, but I think it establishes differences between fans, which should not happen. And some of you guys will say "you can become a member if you want", but be realistic, there are almost no beneffits for international (not rich) fans.

[waterballoon]

Originally Posted by Mirrorcle Monster

Oh my god, this "exclusive super fan clubs" ruin the whole fan experience, which would be seeing the video all together and sharing our thoughts and feelings. Instead, only a bunch of rich (or japanese) fans who can afford it (or can get any benefit from it) can access to the content. I dont know, but I think it establishes differences between fans, which should not happen. And some of you guys will say "you can become a member if you want", but be realistic, there are almost no beneffits for international (not rich) fans.

well...

Ayu's gotta get her $$$ from somewhere

[Neko★munication]

Originally Posted by Mirrorcle Monster

Oh my god, this "exclusive super fan clubs" ruin the whole fan experience, which would be seeing the video all together and sharing our thoughts and feelings. Instead, only a bunch of rich (or japanese) fans who can afford it (or can get any benefit from it) can access to the content. I dont know, but I think it establishes differences between fans, which should not happen. And some of you guys will say "you can become a member if you want", but be realistic, there are almost no beneffits for international (not rich) fans.

Yeah... No. There's very, very little of Ayu's work that's kept exclusively to TA, the most extravagant of which are limited concert tickets and participation in PV shootings and events or whatever (which she can do little about, unless you want her to open her own private airline to fly in fans from everywhere outside of Japan to participate!). If she wants to keep a preview to a song - that we're all going to get eventually anyway! - exclusive to TA, then it really isn't a big deal

Come on, "ruining the whole fan experience" is a bit overdramatic.

[Zeke.]

Does anyone know what euro beat sounds like? Lol. It has a very distinct sound and this is not it. This is just super upbeat and kinda cheesy pop dance. Euro beat almost has an hyped up 80s thing going on in it.

Anyway, doesn't anyone recall Mannie selling AUTOGRAPHED COPIES of Super Manuel on eBay??

[Earth_maiden]

Originally Posted by Mirrorcle Monster

Oh my god, this "exclusive super fan clubs" ruin the whole fan experience, which would be seeing the video all together and sharing our thoughts and feelings. Instead, only a bunch of rich (or japanese) fans who can afford it (or can get any benefit from it) can access to the content. I dont know, but I think it establishes differences between fans, which should not happen. And some of you guys will say "you can become a member if you want", but be realistic, there are almost no beneffits for international (not rich) fans.

I'm not a rich or Japanese fan. It's not that hard to become a member using Tenso, really. There's tutorials on how to do it. I only joined so I could be in the lottery to get tickets for CDL12-13, which I did, so just for that it was well worth the odd $70 yearly membership. Plus I've gotten two Team Ayu mags, I think 3 random Team Ayu presents and I could shop on the Team Ayu store. Not everyone would care for those things, but I really enjoyed them.

[douggn]

Originally Posted by Mirrorcle Monster

Oh my god, this "exclusive super fan clubs" ruin the whole fan experience, which would be seeing the video all together and sharing our thoughts and feelings. Instead, only a bunch of rich (or japanese) fans who can afford it (or can get any benefit from it) can access to the content. I dont know, but I think it establishes differences between fans, which should not happen. And some of you guys will say "you can become a member if you want", but be realistic, there are almost no beneffits for international (not rich) fans.

Hopefully she follows what koda kumi has done and make a email magazine. Which seems to be like team ayu without the phyisical stuff, and translated to english for her english fans and its free