Ayu's social networks - Discussion #55

[Chris85]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Sure, I’d agree she should probably not teach people how to sing properly, but even with her singing capabilities 99% of those people won’t achieve her level of success and she still has a lot to teach them and being a recording artist isn’t all about singing and I think JPOP in general proves that very well.

You are 100% correct. I don't think I've ever heard Perfume sing live for example, so sometimes it's really not about the singing.

[truehappiness]

The invited guests are not really mentors, they have their own hosts/singers for that but special guests did appear to give insights or whatever else. I wonder if she'll only be in an episode or two though if she is part of this one.

[*Petit*]

I'd say that especially in Japan, singing isn't a requirement, mostly because of the way the industry is structured. In the idol world, bad singing could be considered charming... Ayu has a lot of experience from the business side of things, so it makes sense for her to be a mentor for someone wanting to make it in the entertainment industry.

[ExodusUK]

maybe she can do a shouting workshop

[aliceshields]

Originally Posted by ExodusUK

maybe she can do a shouting workshop

[Chibi-Chan]

^this really made me laugh lol

[summerain]

Ayu has a lot to teach about being an artist, a performer and an entertainer.

[maxikot]

Originally Posted by summerain

Ayu has a lot to teach about being an artist, a performer and an entertainer.

Thank you She can sing very well too. I know people are just fooling around here (hopefully) but she really can.

[summerain]

Originally Posted by maxikot

Thank you She can sing very well too. I know people are just fooling around here (hopefully) but she really can.

Technically speaking, she is far from great, but still above the average of J-Pop, even with the aftermath of her deafness process. In terms of interpretation (really SAYING what's being sung), she's among of the best and, again, has a lot to teach.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by maxikot

Thank you She can sing very well too. I know people are just fooling around here (hopefully) but she really can.

Absolutely. Imho she still sounds better than most of the other girls still performing. Utada is generally pleasant to listen to, but often times butchers her best songs, Koda's voice has been deteriorating as well and she is slowly getting to a point where even her studio versions sound broken. Ami Suzuki can barely sing and her voice isn't even pleasant on the ears. The list goes on and on. At this point I can only say that ayaka, Shimatani, Aimer, BoA and Onitsuka Chihiro have the vocals that I'd consider as amazing.

[Chris85]

The problem with Ayu is that yelling/shouting IS NOT singing. Period. So any other artist who's actually singing, even if they mess up, automatically wins.
"While expanding our vocal range, we never want to yell or shout to obtain a desired pitch. Shouting will further damage our vocal cords and develop bad technique in singing. Do not press your voice as in shouting to obtain the desired pitch that might be too high for you".
She's been doing this for sooo long while singing songs that are way too high-pitched for her.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Chris85

The problem with Ayu is that yelling/shouting IS NOT singing. Period. So any other artist who's actually singing, even if they mess up, automatically wins.
"While expanding our vocal range, we never want to yell or shout to obtain a desired pitch. Shouting will further damage our vocal cords and develop bad technique in singing. Do not press your voice as in shouting to obtain the desired pitch that might be too high for you".
She's been doing this for sooo long while singing songs that are way too high-pitched for her.

Why is it a competition though? And none of those singers are dealing with deafness like Ayu is.

[sitara]

ayu's best skill, over anything else, has always been writing profound lyrics (especially her early works) which is the reason I checked out her entire catalogue in first place (definitely not her high potched/nasal voice back in the day) but I do think over time she developed a very pleasant speaking and singing voice.

she's no adele, but her singing skills are nothing to scoff at. I can immediately think of plenty of artists that sing worse than her live (and don't have any known problems with their ears).

[Evolution7/4]

Ayu could teach stage charisma. At her best no one could come close to it. I could watch her hold a mic and swing around a manicured hand for days.

[Andrenekoi]

There are several people out there that can easily outsing Ayu.

What is way less common, are people who have the same amount of stage presence, charisma, or ability to convey a songs feeling through singing or performance. Very little people can give a song live on the same level Ayu does.

And it has nothing to do with budget. Ayu can over perform most people alone in a simple stage wearing white tee and jeans.

[Toniayu123]

Charisma is relative imo.

Ayu’s vocals from 2003-2009 were absolutely perfect. She can (could?) sing.

[koumori]

Some posts removed. Keep on-topic, thank you.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Toniayu123

Charisma is relative imo.

Ayu’s vocals from 2003-2009 were absolutely perfect. She can (could?) sing.

It isn't that relative when you see how much are taken my a person's charisma...

For example, I don't care about Lady Gaga or Namie Amuro, they don't work for me. But they work for a shitton of people, so I can't really deny their charisma, even if it does nothing for me personally.

[mizuki-7]

Actually people don't give a lot of credit to her earliest vocals I mean 98/99 I know that she was singing abnormally high but most of her lives in 99 were pitch perfect and crystal clear it seemed so effortlessly to reach the higher register for her ... of course that was not really the case because it was not her natural tone nonetheless in comparaison her vocal the year after
(2000) sounded way more nasal and scratchy.
2003 2004 were amazing though such a shame if only she was able to maintain this vocal quality things would be so different.

[Toniayu123]

It is as relative as personally thinking someone has it or not. Ayu does for me, not for my family lol.