Rihanna |♥| Thread II |♥| LOUD, S&M feat. Britney Spears

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

LOL I'm glad I didn't like this version.

He made the track... cheesy. It was hot as **** with Rihanna alone.




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[Kingdom]

I actually like the remix tbh. I think they sound good together

[ImpactBreaker]

It sounds really good! Wasn't as terrible as people made it seem...

About the whole Rihanna x CB issue, I'm not defending him, but if she had been so against violence, what explains her releasing a song called S&M a few years after getting a literal "traumatic" experience from her previous bf?

And as far as I know, Chris is not behind bars...so something was definitely off there if they're grouping together to release this song now.

I personally think both were doing drugs when the incident happened.

[emi♡]

Honestly, I dont think he remembered anything at all. And thats why I think he hasnt showed as much remorse.

And idk about the s&m. Theres lines between those things and violence and abuse...

idk what her deal is. Maybe they were violent towards each other, who knows. I dont have respect for her, but its not like I had that much for her before either lol

[milky_way]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

About the whole Rihanna x CB issue, I'm not defending him, but if she had been so against violence, what explains her releasing a song called S&M a few years after getting a literal "traumatic" experience from her previous bf?

Impact, wut are you doing

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

I don't know anymore.

I was becoming a huge fan, but this will surely stop me. She just makes no sense

But meh, she can do whatever she wants with her life, but it doesn't mean we all have to approve and be blind fans.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by milky_way

Impact, wut are you doing

LOL I know both are different things but S&M is all about being reciprocal on accepting violence from a partner (I know with that both partners are in agreement to something while plain violence both parts aren't). I personally thought it was weird when she released a song talking about enjoying getting hit by sticks, stones, whips and chains a while after she had suffered from violence from an ex-partner (I don't think you'd normally expect someone who got traumatized by violence to be screaming they love S&M or anyhting that has got to do with beating or getting beat, unless it's a kid that grows under a violent enviroment and end up becoming violent as well because of their educational background), so seeing her singing alongside him doesn't surprise me this time (since I already got surprised with S&M while knowing what had happened to her).

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Actually, S&M did surprise me a little, but I saw it more like she was enjoying her sex, and that's all. I guess she likes S&M but it doesn't justify what happened with Chris I see them as two different unrelated things.

[ImpactBreaker]

Well, she does say "pain is my pleasure" in the song...
And, well, as much as we say it doesn't justify what CB did (which obviously doesn't, and yeah violence against women is monstrous though there are horrible women out there that violent men but it really doesn't matter because women are "fragile" and men are not to the society), she was the victim and she is now doing a collab with him, so the message she portrays is that it really didn't matter much for her at all. I mean, forgiving someone for something horrible they did is something. Doing a collab, is much more than just forgiving imo. At least that's how it impacts me, personally. However, I already saw that coming after I bought LOUD and listened to S&M for the first time.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

apparently she lost over 100k followers on twitter today. HA. LOL

and an infraction for that pic...ahs is such a joke

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

Well, she does say "pain is my pleasure" in the song...

Still not the same kind of pain. Pain can be pleasurable, but judging by the pictures of her after being punched by Chris, that's totally different.

If you even watch some of the S&M porn, you'll see how they aren't even punched the way Rihanna got punched.



And just like Madonna too, she went through something similar and she sang about S&M. But Madonna did leave her abusive husband for good.

[NintendoHTF1242]

S&M is a protest against the media. Rihanna got sick of the media saying she likes to get beat, so she made the song to protest: "You like to say I get beat? Here you go."

Even the video is a protest against the media.

And I seriously hope that wasn't the cover for Birthday Cake. It looked like it was uploaded by a user so I didn't care for it, but if it's official that's embarrassing.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

apparently she lost over 100k followers on twitter today. HA. LOL

and an infraction for that pic...ahs is such a joke

...wow.

Anyways, I guess it's weird to release something like S&M, but I personally didnt even make the correlation...like they said above, I figured they were two totally different things.

Now, it could be possible that it goes beyond that for her...but Id find that exceedingly odd. Most people into it recognize the differences between it and everyday behavior. To find people so into the lifestyle that violence becomes a part of their daily lives is rare.

lol talking about this at ahs is weird...im just gonna go...


Oh wait, but you know, Im always conflicted about the role model thing. Is it really her responsibility? Is her music even appropriate for young people...idk.

[ImpactBreaker]

Whatever it was the protest on the "opposite side" then, went all over the drain because now she's definitely reassuring the media somewhat.
Plus, to people who only listen to a song being played on radios, players, etc and doesn't watch or pay attention to double meanings shown in music videos, the message portrayed by the song is what it is.

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

Still not the same kind of pain. Pain can be pleasurable, but judging by the pictures of her after being punched by Chris, that's totally different.

Pain is a disturbing feeling, no matter what. Some people might find pleasure with painful stimullus but still the pain, if they feel it, will be disturbing. the difference is because pain can be supressed even to important degrees depending on the state of mind of a person, up to complete numbness.

I won't comment on the rest, though I'll just say there's much more than just that.

[George]

Our society wants everyone that get a wee bit of media exposure to become role models. If parents doesn't want their kids to watch or listen to music that contradicts their morality, they should do their jobs properly and stop passing it on the entertainment industry. I find it quite ironic that after all the parents' effort to censor everything under the sun, we have the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the developed world. They should know by now that simply hiding it doesn't work and they should talk about sex with their children. A proper sex education should be one of the government's priority.

I just couldn't help myself.

[emi♡]

but theres the issue with demographics and such in our country thats makes it substantially different from other countries...but anyway, sex education is still lacking I suppose.

I was quite content with my sex ed lol we had like four different sessions over the years.

Theres also a difference though between sex ed and the themes of dominance and submission that rihanna goes through lol

[George]

^ Yes, what I said was completely unrelated. Lol

[Zahara]

"but S&M is all about being reciprocal on accepting violence from a partner"

As someone who knows people who are apart of that scene...I can tell you this is pretty far from the truth.

Either way, it's not my favorite Rihanna song lol.

And she's a fool for doing this.

[Kingdom]

I don't understand why people have their granny panties up in knots.

It's two remixes, not a trip to the alter. You aren't in Rihanna's head, you can't say she loves to be beaten or she's stupid for going back to Chris Brown.

When it's not even clear she "went back" to him.

Also, LOL @ NONE of you knowing what BDSM is or what it's about.

[Zahara]

^ My sister is a professional Dominatrix, so I know a bit about the scene : )

I think it's silly to say that a song that she didn't write makes her feelings clear, which is what I replied to.