why ayu doesn't want to go global

[TeamAyu2004]

^ if it was english I think she would have a good chance to be with the likes of madonna/celine/mariah

[TeamAyu2004]

^ and I dont really understand the craze about this song anyways...
its not that good...
Yes I dance along to it in the car... but I roll my eyes if it comes on for a second time... and then the 3rd... and dont even get me started when it happens to play 4 times in my single car ride...
-.-

[channy]

I think Ayaman Japan and their PV for "Poipoipoipoipoi" are BY FAR funnier and a lot more weird than any gangnam style. They deserve a worldwide breakthrough! >: D

[JackieRos]

is called FLOP.

[yves918]

Ayu wouldn't have to use anymore English in her music than she does already. She doesn't speak Chinese, but she had a big show in Taiwan that I'm sure many of us have watched.

She can do one big show in, say, the U.S. When I say "big," I mean as big as Madison Square Garden. There's enough of a fan base here for that, but not for more shows. L'arc~en~ciel did this, and I think it was pretty successful. Ayu will never break into mainstream Western music, but there are still a lot of Ayu fans who live outside of Asia who would definitely see her one big show in their country (me included).

[Party_King]

KODA KUMI tryed USA... FAILED
UTADA HIKARU tryed USA... FAILED
& others...

and already AYUMI herself FAILED (in GERMANY) too... with every release of her 6 singles...

so.. why she had to risk everything?

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by Party_King

KODA KUMI tryed USA... FAILED
UTADA HIKARU tryed USA... FAILED
& others...

and already AYUMI herself FAILED (in GERMANY) too... with every release of her 6 singles...

so.. why she had to risk everything?

You can't release one or two things in a new market and expect to do well. Especially when there's no promotion or hype.

Even western artists fail that way :/

You need to have a label that is dedicated to making you huge. And people like Ayu and hikki and kuu, boa, namie, etc...I'm sorry, but...they're just too old and done.

They have successful careers somewhere else. Why come here? Why try? There's nothing new here for them


About Americans accepting Japanese people. Um lol. No one even cares about that.

Americans don't accept Asians in music because they don't speak English without accents that sound funny to our ears because of our social conditioning. That's it.

The other thing is. Most Asian artists that come here, don't have their own style. Mostly because their style overseas is what's popular there. Ayu included. You can't just get some random person no one knows, and drop them into a style that everyone else is doing, and then, have them not even sing well/without an accent.

They need to have something new and special, to cover niches in the market that aren't overcrowded...which most are.

There's just no place for a lot of asian acts, sorry.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Party_King

and already AYUMI herself FAILED (in GERMANY) too... with every release of her 6 singles...

Ayumi never tried and/or failed. The German singles were not released by avex, Ayumi had nothing to do with them, Ayumi may not have even known about them. They were released by a label that had rights to the remixes. They were remix singles without any promotion(because they weren't intended as releases to make Ayumi a household name) and as such actually were pretty succesful, most remix singles don't break the top200, most of Ayumi's were in the top200. Connected reached a good position on the German dance charts - and the dance charts are the only charts in which remix singles can even reach good positions at all.

[jbrat2219]

She has no good reason to go global. There's maximum risk and little reward.

[jang-kun]

for ayu to go global will definitely compromise her legendary craft of music. i'd die if i hear ayu singing "hey sexxxy laadddeehhh"

[microphone]

Originally Posted by Party_King

KODA KUMI tryed USA... FAILED
UTADA HIKARU tryed USA... FAILED
& others...

and already AYUMI herself FAILED (in GERMANY) too... with every release of her 6 singles...

so.. why she had to risk everything?

Why do you feel the need to bring up Utada and Koda Kumi? Ayu is different, although I agree she wouldn't be successful.
Unless, you mean it's because they are Asian?

She certainly has the European look but her music is not western-friendly. Westerners for the most part do not react well to foreign things, even if they are some-what western.

[Party_King]

Originally Posted by microphone

Why do you feel the need to bring up Utada and Koda Kumi? Ayu is different, although I agree she wouldn't be successful.
Unless, you mean it's because they are Asian?

She certainly has the European look but her music is not western-friendly. Westerners for the most part do not react well to foreign things, even if they are some-what western.

i'm sure about they're so different... but
i think Koda Kumi had the best cards to be succesful in western music...
her musical style is more western as ayu's...
(think of Lollipop, VIP, POP DIVA etc)
they said anything Party Queen is worldclass... forget it...
only a few songs on this album could be succesful (NaNaNa, Shake It <3)

but the most important thing would be... they all have to sing in english!

[jang-kun]

^PQ is somewhat western... that makes sense. lol

[owlflight]

She could at least make an international fan club. It would be much easier to join Team Ayu then. Or she could just get her music and videos back on the USA iTunes Store for me... I'll stop that rant of mine.

[microphone]

Originally Posted by jang-kun

^PQ is somewhat western... that makes sense. lol

I don't think even Party Queen would have much success in the states or Europe. (edit: Is that the point you were making? )

[jang-kun]

Originally Posted by microphone

I don't think even Party Queen would have much success in the states or Europe. (edit: Is that the point you were making? )

lol no just pointing at the covers


but PQ is indeed very negative-rated, to the extent that some fans claim LOVE as a saving grace from PQ era. can't figure out why, maybe because of the giant ass covers?


but for an overseas concert PQ has the best tracklist (i'm kinda hooked on PQ right now so lol)

[inthezone]

Asian music will never be popular outside of Asia. It's sad but true. Americans especially will never accept them, especially japanese people.
Psy is only popular because the video is funny.

[NintendoHTF1242]

Originally Posted by inthezone

Asian music will never be popular outside of Asia. It's sad but true. Americans especially will never accept them, especially japanese people.
Psy is only popular because the video is funny.

They're playing the song on radios.

[saigodansu]

It's a small minority in the western world that listen to any kind of asian music. There will never be a majority making it worth it to asian artists to branch out here. And it's sad that the reverse goes very differently and they accept so much from he western world and keep changing to try to be like the west. Asia was better off without western influences, most of what they have changed in asia to be like the west is from the worst sources of influence.

Narrowing it down to just Ayumi. I didn't mind when she was 1st learning english and we got her cute thankyous and bye bye. But now that the western influence on her career involves Shake it, na na na, I'm a sad queen, the hollywood like "luv ya beb" exchanges with Timmy and others etc., it's not cute anymore, it's just sad and making her CDs worse with each release. I think japanese artists should take a lesson from other japanese people I've met and have some pride in being japanese instead of trying to be westernized.

[BlackSilence]

^ as much as japanese artists would go westernized they will STILL have that something western artists don't. they ahve specific voices. Their music even tho vesternized is still very different. However quite some rock artists do gather crowds for their concerts, regulary. i think ayu could probably get 3-5 venues of 1000-3000 people filled up like once 2-3 years with long time loyal fans who already know her, of course it wouldn't be one of her grand shows , just very intimate mood ones. But i'd love that. I honestly would take that anytime over a grand show. because you actually GET to interact with the artist. And you can feel them much better. Their vocals would blossom even more and there would be more thought put to the actual song's arangement than to the whole production of the whole show.

on the other hand i don't think she could make herself a stable career in europe or usa, and i believe things like that would strip off her uniquness, because we all see what "music" is loved around the world nowadays, and i really don't want to see her turning into one of the many instead of being one AND only.

Psy is a big joke, people like stupid stuff for some reason, i on the other hand can't stand it.