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Old 2nd May 2009, 09:53 AM
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Yes, she is very confused about her lies, too, because in the A Song for XX notes she said FRIEND was her first studio recording and in Light & Shadow she says its poker face^^
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Old 2nd May 2009, 06:38 PM
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She didn't say FRIEND was the first song recorded EVER, she said it was first as opposed to poker face.

And the conversation in the documentary went roughly like this:
"I was recording my first single..."
"poker face?"
"Uh... yeah."

She did hesitate a tiny bit before saying "yeah" - mentioning NFN there woulda kinda killed the moment, given that she was talking about her grandmother's death at the time. She could have clarified that she meant debut single under the name "Hamasaki Ayumi," or she meant debut under avex, or whatever, but that woulda been a bit of a tangent and the momentum of the conversation woulda been lost. But you can tell she thought of mentioning it. Plus, officially, poker face IS her first single - because NFN was under a different name.

And I think it's more likely that the lyrics to LIMIT were ghost written. They're not really her style (sure her style probably changed alot between 1995 and 1998, but still), and to give her more "credibility" it's entirely likely that someone else wrote the lyrics to LIMIT, but she contributed a tiny bit so they decided to give her all the credit to make her look better. It happens all the time. I could believe that "poker face" were really the first lyrics she wrote all by herself.

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Old 2nd May 2009, 08:01 PM
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^you bring up good points.
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Old 2nd May 2009, 08:54 PM
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^you bring up good points.
right

I actually didn't remember what exactly she said and the circumstances, youre probably right then
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Old 2nd May 2009, 09:13 PM
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actually I really want to know what she thinks about nothing from nothing now.. ahaha.
Actually, nothing from nothing sounds like a title she would have used in her early years with Avex~~
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Old 2nd May 2009, 09:23 PM
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I agree with Delirium-Zer0 and I think Ayu totally separe her life before and after her debut career. Before she was only AYUMI and now she is Ayumi Hamasaki. It's like two diffrent job. I remember the CNN interview she always says Ayumi Hamasaki and not only AYUMI
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Old 4th May 2009, 08:12 AM
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I think Deli brings up good points about the ghost writing. LIMIT doesn't really fit in with any other lyrics she's written and while you can say she changed a lot in the years 1995-1998 I don't think it will really change that much. Her style from 1998-2009 hasn't been that drastic, plus, I didn't think it was all that common for debut acts to be given that much creative control over their first release - I figured that most times the first album songs are mostly ghostwritten and depending on sales they get more control....but that might just be the AU music industry

And I don' think that JAJ's question was answered yet - before joining Avex, Ayu performed as an Idol - she basically sang covers of songs and did bikini shoots/videos (clips she sang on tv shows back then are available in the fan-made album MOON which is available here on AHS).

As for the term "Idol past" (sounds shady, huh?) - there's a video of her riding a bike in her Idol days (that I haven't seen yet) but in a later TV appearance she didn't know how to ride. She might have forgotten or have become afraid of bike riding or something but there's a chance she was acting
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Old 4th May 2009, 09:01 AM
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No I don't agree. I think this is why she wrote the song Liar on MY STORY.
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Old 4th May 2009, 02:50 PM
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i wouldn't call her a liar... maybe it's just a misunderstanding, kinda?
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You guys are confusing me....

I like LIMIT and Paper Doll though. /random
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Old 7th May 2009, 06:54 AM
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that interview was in TIME ASIA years ago

also i dun think ayu is lying...she is ayumi hamasaki/ayu with avex..but just ayumi with columbia

plus everybody knows about her past...why does she even need to lie? you only lie to cover up things you dun want ppl to know

either way..i dun care..i still like ayu and support her regardless of her past..everybody has their own past..ayu's lyrics is truly inspirational to me and that's all i care about. period.
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