[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~crossroad & L for 50th Single~

[AyumiAi]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Sorry, but on the same way I really doubt everyone knows every Mariah Carey song (considering she has 13 full albums), I doubt everyone can sing by heart, or even name all of her 18 #1 singles... A hardcore fan? Yeap... A casual listener? Unlikelly... Neither? Nops...

On the same way, I doubt anyone but hardcore fans (and maybe not even those) can name by heart all the singles Ayu has on her streak...

Honestly US and Canada 99% of the people know the lyrics to Most of Mariahs singles. I personally hate hate hate her (im not hating right now im just proving a point so dont kill me fans of mariah) but when a single of hers comes out or when her new album comes you just end up learning the lyrics because EVERYONE at school and on tv is singing her songs. I know most of her songs and yea maybe not every single album song, but yea most of her singles i know the lyrics pretty well, they are always played at clubs with remix and parties(especially her more sexy singles AKA Touch My Body) and her number one singles, are basically in everyones head for about an entire month after she releases them... Even someone like Kesha, who isnt half as popular as Mariah Carey everyone knows the lyrics to ehr singles Tick Tok, Blah Blah Blah, Your Love is My Drug, Take It Off, so if we casual listeners know her singles and their lyrics to someone not as popular as Mariah then i think yea im right. Or Lady Gaga EVERYONE in NA even Mexico (i travel alot between the 3 countires with family) knows 99% of her singles and lyrics to them.
Not only die hard fans
Ps. Im not mad or angry at u at all, im just trying to show my side of things sorry if it comes across as that.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by AyumiAi

Honestly US and Canada 99% of the people know the lyrics to Most of Mariahs singles. I personally hate hate hate her (im not hating right now im just proving a point so dont kill me fans of mariah) but when a single of hers comes out or when her new album comes you just end up learning the lyrics because EVERYONE at school and on tv is singing her songs. I know most of her songs and yea maybe not every single album song, but yea most of her singles i know the lyrics pretty well, they are always played at clubs with remix and parties(especially her more sexy singles AKA Touch My Body) and her number one singles, are basically in everyones head for about an entire month after she releases them... Even someone like Kesha, who isnt half as popular as Mariah Carey everyone knows the lyrics to ehr singles Tick Tok, Blah Blah Blah, Your Love is My Drug, Take It Off, so if we casual listeners know her singles and their lyrics to someone not as popular as Mariah then i think yea im right. Or Lady Gaga EVERYONE in NA even Mexico (i travel alot between the 3 countires with family) knows 99% of her singles and lyrics to them.
Not only die hard fans
Ps. Im not mad or angry at u at all, im just trying to show my side of things sorry if it comes across as that.

Relax^^

[oneheart]

Originally Posted by AyumiAi

Do you live in the US or Canada?
Because over here EVERYONE knows ALL of Mariah Carey's songs, when they are released every girl is singing them, and the guys are staring at her music videos.......
small flaw in your theory

I live in Canada and only know...we belong together and touch my body...

[Nackar_91]

Heck, I live in Holland and I could easily name all of her songs that reached no. 1. In my time, at least.

[spanishfan]

Did someone got 2 nº1# at singles in two weeks with different singles before? Maybe Ayu will get that "record" too!

[Nackar_91]

Originally Posted by spanishfan

Did someone got 2 nº1# at singles in two weeks with different singles before? Maybe Ayu will get that "record" too!

Nope, there are several examples of that happening. The most recent one I can think of is Bump of Chicken, that released HAPPY and Mahou no Ryouri one week apart in May, both hit no. 1.

[Bigtop]

^ Blanket marketing? I did not even know about that either...

[adantatu2]

GOOD sales!!!!!
congratz ayu

[Ranma Matsuri]

^O__O

Sales, sales, sales, where are the sales? XD (yeah, I care about stuff like this, sue me)

[Max_ZZZ]

LOL i know a few, but ya, mariah songs are old man.... maybe i'm too young but sooo many people thought she was a new artist when we belong together came out LOL

[ストロボ・EdGE]

Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ

LOL i know a few, but ya, mariah songs are old man.... maybe i'm too young but sooo many people thought she was a new artist when we belong together came out LOL

That was her big comeback song; she had been in a horrible slump for a long time. From then on, this has been like her Second Coming where she's had a couple really big songs again.

Kind of similar to Namie Amuro actually, where her popularity was kind of dormant and then exploded with 60s70s80s/Best Fiction.

[Kingdom]

I was a child of the 90s so I grew up with Mariah, she's a talented artist!

and I agree, the number 1 singles streak is mainly for bragging rights of the fans... as are all records in the music world. I don't see why Ayu would want to point it out often, it's just for marketing. I don't think Ayu is that obsessed with the streak, but AVEX.

[Max_ZZZ]

also this whole world value fight is pointless...
different charts use different methods etc etc
who cares, as long as she has it in japan then anyone who cares to know will know she's the highest female =D

[Ranma Matsuri]

Yeah, maybe it's because I'm a child of the 90's but it's so weird to see these comments since most (if not all) people I know recognize Mariah for stuff like Hero, Always be my Baby, Vision of Love, Daydream, etc. lol Learn new something everyday, I really am getting old.

When it does come down to it, stuff like high sales and rankings really are just there for bragging rights because in the larger picture, do we really need stuff like Oricon and Billboard? Nothing about who's on top says anything about the quality of their music or their relevance in the industry. For older acts though, it can to some extent show their longevity in the industry like "hey we've been around for so-so years and this new act may be the hot thing right now but people still get hype whenever I release something yea". Not true for everyone though, acts like Madonna show their weight more on tour then on music charts but I feel I'm rambling now. lol I personally just think it's good fun and competitiveness and I like to brag about artists I like so to that extent stuff like rankings and streaks matter to me but just for artists I care about. /last thing she'll say on the topic XD

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri

Yeah, maybe it's because I'm a child of the 90's but it's so weird to see these comments since most (if not all) people I know recognize Mariah for stuff like Hero, Always be my Baby, Vision of Love, Daydream, etc. lol Learn new something everyday, I really am getting old.

When it does come down to it, stuff like high sales and rankings really are just there for bragging rights because in the larger picture, do we really need stuff like Oricon and Billboard? Nothing about who's on top says anything about the quality of their music or their relevance in the industry. For older acts though, it can to some extent show their longevity in the industry like "hey we've been around for so-so years and this new act may be the hot thing right now but people still get hype whenever I release something yea". Not true for everyone though, acts like Madonna show their weight more on tour then on music charts but I feel I'm rambling now. lol I personally just think it's good fun and competitiveness and I like to brag about artists I like so to that extent stuff like rankings and streaks matter to me but just for artists I care about. /last thing she'll say on the topic XD

Well, I do find charts a valid way to know how well artists are doing, in the end of the day, sales reflects the impact of the song sometimes... But as Oricon charts only focus on physical sales, they miss some huge digital singles and sometimes a not very popular song reach #1 just cuz the artist has a strong fanbase... And it doesn't even need to be a very big one xD

*braging* About Madonna, she is not really having hits on north america, but as far as I know, she had at least 2 big hits everywhere else in the world on the 00's after Music: Hung up and 4 Minutes... and even in the USA those reach Platinum on downloads xD *fanboy mode off* Still, it's inevitable... at some point of the career, every artist and band will be active for so long general public will not be interested on their new music anymore... For great performers, this mean kicking everyone else butt on tours xD

[CHE.R.RY]

Yay it's doing a little better than MOON/blossom !

[Bigtop]

Well, Avex might recognize the record, but not Ayu, as she might still be busy...

[adantatu2]

Tomorrow (or today?) the first sales for L !!!
i hope really good sales !!!

[rakeru]

What a nice birthday present this should be, seeing L on top of the charts!

[Bigtop]

Any mid-day sales as of now?