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Old 4th January 2009, 10:53 AM
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I'm a bit disappointed, and can only hope that this was a problem with the translation (for her singing mistakes) or some problem with the file.
Cause Over also had -many- mistakes, during evolution when she called out 'Yo-chan~' it was dark and hard to tell if he said it, but it looked a bit off...
(but during UNITE! on the TV screen, it was written as SURREAL, lol XD )
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Old 4th January 2009, 12:04 PM
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Over had mistakes where?
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Old 4th January 2009, 12:09 PM
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By 'mistakes' I meant.. parts where it looked as if she was behind the singing. There were many, basically, the whole song.
I get it why so many people say it was lip synched.
Because surely, "It's over~" came in way before she brought the mike to her lips.

Other than that, I'm still trying to decide if it was a problem with the translation on the TV, or the video file.

But those are just hopes
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Old 4th January 2009, 12:27 PM
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Actually on ayuchina they say that the TBS satellite signal was not very good that night from 11 p.m, that's why there are synchronization problems with image and sound in the video! Actually I have the full encore, and after MY ALL's choregraphy lesson, the sound is inaudible and the image is very blurred, so it was impossible for me to watch from +... The concert ends right after MY ALL.

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Old 4th January 2009, 12:43 PM
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Actually on ayuchina they say that the TBS satellite signal was not very good that night from 11 p.m, that's why there are synchronization problems with image and sound in the video! Actually I have the full encore, and after MY ALL's choregraphy lesson, the sound is inaudible and the image is very blurred, so it was impossible for me to watch from +... The concert ends right after MY ALL.
Hmmm... So is that why there is no encore available? Just to crappy of a quality to upload?
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Old 4th January 2009, 12:51 PM
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Actually on ayuchina they say that the TBS satellite signal was not very good that night from 11 p.m, that's why there are synchronization problems with image and sound in the video! Actually I have the full encore, and after MY ALL's choregraphy lesson, the sound is inaudible and the image is very blurred, so it was impossible for me to watch from +... The concert ends right after MY ALL.
Then that might be the case? Because... it looked weird at parts, at Over.
Almost as if the video was sped up a little at times XD

I can't wait to see the DVD, because I'm pretty sure we won't see any problems there :3
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Old 4th January 2009, 12:34 PM
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Actually, if I were Ayu and wanted to lip sync certain songs, I wouldn't be so dumb as to make avoidable mistakes as such seen in ANGEL'S SONG and Over... but there are always exceptions! Either way, this PCDL is really a great fan-service and I would LOVE to part with my money to get my hands on the DVD!
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Old 4th January 2009, 12:38 PM
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Oh, yea, that's the file. Unless she lip synced everything and failed to mouth it properly due to mental retardedness. At least that's what I see. Because if you compare the vibrato in Over to, say, ANGEL'S SONG and HONEY, you notice her vibrato is muuuch rougher in Over. E.g.

Vibrato HONEY:
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Vibrato Over:
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Because if you compare the vibrato in Over to, say, ANGEL'S SONG and HONEY, you notice her vibrato is muuuch rougher in Over. E.g.
She was singing for a really long time,
So that could explain the vibrato difference~
Like, she sang POWDER SNOW (which probably destroyed her vocal chords at that moment.. ahaha so high)
The HOPE or PAIN, OVER, and Scar, all back to back..
Omg thats so scary to actually think about it~ ahaha.
No breaks in between.
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Old 5th January 2009, 10:32 AM
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She was singing for a really long time,
So that could explain the vibrato difference~
Like, she sang POWDER SNOW (which probably destroyed her vocal chords at that moment.. ahaha so high)
The HOPE or PAIN, OVER, and Scar, all back to back..
Omg thats so scary to actually think about it~ ahaha.
No breaks in between.
Oh, I didn't think about that.

But then everywhere nowhere has reaaaally smooth vibrato. ><..... Oh well lol.

@waterballoon: I checked it out again, and I hear Ayu singing watashi wyaaaa. I dunno what she's doing, but it sounds like wya instead of wa. xD

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Old 4th January 2009, 12:41 PM
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^ Lol vibrato out of control? By the way, I'm watching the clips on youtube now and I hope they're in their best quality (or at least synced well in audio and video)...
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I think she only lip-synched ANGEL'S SONG (and it's ovious she did, just think of the 'Kimi no se ni tenshi no hane o mita' where she sings motsu instead of mita).
When you edit the audio stream to actually fit the video songs like OVER or SCAR actually match her breathing and the way she does her 'vibrato-thing'.
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I've uploaded the encore here: http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84610

It's only the first part, but the second is uploading right now, even thought the second part is in horrible quality >__<
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Ok so I watched it (yea took me long enough), ANGEL'S SONG is defo lip synced (no one can argue that), Over was really weird, it might be that the did use a back track for that It' Over in question as it was too close to the previous line, and it didn't look like she tried to sing it, but it could be that it was LSed as well. I am pretty sure the rest was not lip synced, tough I had my doubts when it comes to SCAR but I guess no one can really prove if she sang it or not. The delays were obvious at times, but it's prolly due to either bad compression or the fact that the signal was weak as someone said. Over all the concert was ok, still can't beat an ARENA TOUR imo. For My Dear.. is simply AMAZING!
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I haven't watched the concert yet, but looking at the pictures, I love her outfits! Especially the red dress.
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Awww. what can i say? Ayu's beauty is breathtaking and and i wouldn't have agreed otherwise...

Cool, that she didn't use Shu-ya as her male-partner for Green performances.... That's something new.
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why would she lip synch? she hasn't done that for any other concert (has she?), and i don't really see the need to do it now, and only for one song.
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why would she lip synch? she hasn't done that for any other concert (has she?), and i don't really see the need to do it now, and only for one song.
Lol she's done it several times before. Some confirmed + very suspected:

AT08: (d)Lma, Marionette, my name's WOMEN
A-Nation 08: fairyland, Greatful days
CDL0708: STEP you, evolution
A-Nation 07: until that Day...
AT07: evolution, until that Day... (but until that Day is only lip sync on dvd, so they could have completely changed her vocals)
AT06: Ladies Night
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Old 5th January 2009, 01:46 AM
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Lol she's done it several times before. Some confirmed + very suspected:

AT08: (d)Lma, Marionette, my name's WOMEN
A-Nation 08: fairyland, Greatful days
CDL0708: STEP you, evolution
A-Nation 07: until that Day...
AT07: evolution, until that Day... (but until that Day is only lip sync on dvd, so they could have completely changed her vocals)
AT06: Ladies Night
If I may ask, which of these are confirmed lip-sync performances??? And please, the ones YOU confirmed yourself don't count. You seem so PROUD to be the AYU-lipsync Inspector, and that make me sick...
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Old 5th January 2009, 10:57 AM
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If I may ask, which of these are confirmed lip-sync performances??? And please, the ones YOU confirmed yourself don't count. You seem so PROUD to be the AYU-lipsync Inspector, and that make me sick...
I proved evolution AT07 and CDL0708, they used the same track to lipsynch on in both concerts/tours(except the first part where ayus in the air) somebody said its the track from AT06, but i dont have AT06 evolution, so i cant confirm that, but AT07 and CDL0708 are exactly the same after the first chorus

and recording new versions is just normal, many artist do it, some even say it in interviews(i think morning musume(not sure) once said they were going to studio before a tour to record the playbacktracks) and why would she have to remember new things? its a rerecording of the same song, its just done so it sounds like her current voice and not like 1998-i-catched-a-cold-and-had-it-for-5-years-ayu, also, these studio recordings are live-recordings, recorded in 1 or 2 takes, depending on if they were mistakes in them, recording the files for 2 or 3 songs will take a few hours and it wont cost much money(and ayu probably has a home studio, as well, where she doesnt need to pay anything)

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