Ayu's taxes and income for 2004

[lolo66]

haha1~ I gues it's safe to say that it's a fortune for the overwhelming majority of the members here.

[razchaos]

OK. It's like this. A Japanese album would sell around 2-3 million copies in Japan alone. And when it comes to international(outside japan)it would probably sell around 400-500 thousand. I think that is a great number for a country like japan. In America, 1-3 millon copies for an album is usual. Some albums could reach 4-9 million copies very easily even in the same year the album was released. Usher's Confession is a good example. The album hit 1.3 million copies in it's first week and sold more than 9 million(i dunno about this thing in japan but a platinum award in america equal to a million copies) 9m in america alone!!!!

Before Britney turned 20, she had sold nearly 40 million albums worldwide. As far as I know, her Baby One More Time album has just recently certified 14 million copies in USA alone. Then her second album sold 10 million copies in america. I think all american artistes earn their money accordding to the contract they signed. For example, Mariah signed a USD80M contract which is the biggest deal signed for Virgin. Not long after that, she had been fired and Virgin paid USD28M to her. All american artistes probably earn at least USD10M even though they don't released any album.

[DA1SUK1DAY01691]

sure utada has cash, but ayumi has quality! I mean Kettobase was just a song hikki wrote when she was drunk (IMO)... at least when Ayu writes, she uses her true, sober (lol) feelings...

[greggerz189]

Originally Posted by ayumihamasakisan005

sure utada has cash, but ayumi has quality! I mean Kettobase was just a song hikki wrote when she was drunk (IMO)... at least when Ayu writes, she uses her true, sober (lol) feelings...

XD lol. by the way, what does IMO mean? I keep hearing it EVERYWHERE but I have no idea what the hell it means! XD

[DA1SUK1DAY01691]

Originally Posted by ayumihamasakisan005

sure utada has cash, but ayumi has quality! I mean Kettobase was just a song hikki wrote when she was drunk (IMO)... at least when Ayu writes, she uses her true, sober (lol) feelings...

sorry if it sounded like an attack, but just look at her beginning! i get creeped out whenever my brother plays it!

IMO - in my opinion

[EDGE23]

0_0'' can't imaging how much money .....

[atsai]

I'll never understand why Hikki makes so much money. I know there's the saying 'to each his own' but I cannot for the life of me understand what makes her music that 'godly' to people. I agree with saying that she's incredibly overrated. Don't get me wrong, I like some of her music too.. but I don't think it's worthy of all the praise it gets. @_@

[gakkun]

People stop bashing Hikki just because she earns more than Ayu. In Japan, people like artists more than idols, and that's where Hikki and Ayu's difference is at. I haven't heard a single Japanese saying they dislike Hikki but many (except for fans like us) dislike Ayu simple because they see her as a has-been.

[JinHamasaki]

Originally Posted by gakkun

People stop bashing Hikki just because she earns more than Ayu. In Japan, people like artists more than idols, and that's where Hikki and Ayu's difference is at. I haven't heard a single Japanese saying they dislike Hikki but many (except for fans like us) dislike Ayu simple because they see her as a has-been.

Well, just because you haven't heard a Japanese person saying they dislike Hikki, doesn't mean it is representative of the entire Japanese population. The only reason why Hikki has had the highest income was due to her SINGLE COLLECTION Vol 1., the best selling album of 2004 - just breaking 3 million. Ayu only released a bunch of singles (Moments, INSPIRE, CAROLS, and a very little bit from Memorial address in the beginning of 2004; MY STORY will be counted in 2005 income).

People need to understand that this is the first time Hikki topped Ayu (well, maybe not in 1999 since Hikki released First Love....any data on that year?).

[PSYCHEDELICOdust]

People also need to understand that just because she is mentioned in a thread in the Ayu section there is NO need to bash her. This isn't a thread questioning either of the artists' musical talents or anything else OTHER than their earnings.

[mooy]

Originally Posted by PSYCHEDELICOdust

People also need to understand that just because she is mentioned in a thread in the Ayu section there is NO need to bash her. This isn't a thread questioning either of the artists' musical talents or anything else OTHER than their earnings.

After reading through every single post I don't think I heard anyone bash Hikki, They were just wondering why she made so much when she released so little, that is all.

[PSYCHEDELICOdust]

Originally Posted by mooy

After reading through every single post I don't think I heard anyone bash Hikki, They were just wondering why she made so much when she released so little, that is all.

"sure utada has cash, but ayumi has quality! I mean Kettobase was just a song hikki wrote when she was drunk (IMO)... at least when Ayu writes, she uses her true, sober (lol) feelings..."

That doesn't sound like an attack?

[mooy]

Originally Posted by PSYCHEDELICOdust

"sure utada has cash, but ayumi has quality! I mean Kettobase was just a song hikki wrote when she was drunk (IMO)... at least when Ayu writes, she uses her true, sober (lol) feelings..."

That doesn't sound like an attack?

Ok I admitt that one was pretty brutal but for the most part I think any "attacks" on Hikki have been slim to none. I don't think many people here hate Hikki because she makes more money than Ayu. Anyway, its not really a big deal.

[lolo66]

Originally Posted by mooy

Ok I admitt that one was pretty brutal but for the most part I think any "attacks" on Hikki have been slim to none. I don't think many people here hate Hikki because she makes more money than Ayu. Anyway, its not really a big deal.

What if the table is turn the other way? I will see people getting all drum up to go bash some overly excited Hikki fan.

[happytoadstool]

Utada hikaru sells really really well in Japan. Amzing and Ayu is the 5th highest taxpayer in the music entertainment industry (both male and female)! That's amazing I'm not surprised that utada hikaru earns more than ayu in terms of sales. When she releases something, people are very excited about it, thus leading to high sales. Ayu produces good songs (better than hikki, IMO) but maybe the Japanese got tired of her already and are less enthusiastic about her releases since she produces singles thrice a year with an album to cap off the year, unlike Utada who, recently puts out one single a year. and it just so happens that in 2004, she released two albums. and one of them is a BEST album!
Total sales of each (approximate)
Ayu
Memorial address 1m
three singles 300000+ each
total: close to 2m

Utada:
singles collection 3m or a bit less
exodus 1m
darekano (single) 400,000 or less
total: around 4m +

Wait... if ayu's sales is half than hikki's, why is there such a huge gap between their income? ayu's sales are half of hikki's yet ayu's income is nearly one third of hikki's... where the hell did those other stuff come from?
either utada makes more money from her advertisements, or hikki's record company contract gives hikki a larger income from sales than ayu. or both. Just my guess :p

I'm quite surprised that Mocchi (ELT singer) is in the top five of females... ELT barely released anything with phenomenal sales in 2004. mika nakashima may have even sold more than her.

[andre2907]

Originally Posted by happytoadstool

Utada hikaru sells really really well in Japan. Amzing and Ayu is the 5th highest taxpayer in the music entertainment industry (both male and female)! That's amazing I'm not surprised that utada hikaru earns more than ayu in terms of sales. When she releases something, people are very excited about it, thus leading to high sales. Ayu produces good songs (better than hikki, IMO) but maybe the Japanese got tired of her already and are less enthusiastic about her releases since she produces singles thrice a year with an album to cap off the year, unlike Utada who, recently puts out one single a year. and it just so happens that in 2004, she released two albums. and one of them is a BEST album!
Total sales of each (approximate)
Ayu
Memorial address 1m
three singles 300000+ each
total: close to 2m

Utada:
singles collection 3m or a bit less
exodus 1m
darekano (single) 400,000 or less
total: around 4m +

Wait... if ayu's sales is half than hikki's, why is there such a huge gap between their income? ayu's sales are half of hikki's yet ayu's income is nearly one third of hikki's... where the hell did those other stuff come from?
either utada makes more money from her advertisements, or hikki's record company contract gives hikki a larger income from sales than ayu. or both. Just my guess :p

I'm quite surprised that Mocchi (ELT singer) is in the top five of females... ELT barely released anything with phenomenal sales in 2004. mika nakashima may have even sold more than her.

For advertising campaigns, Hikki gets LOTS more than Ayu, so that's probably why 'cos Hikki is the highest-paid female singer and the 4th highest-paid female [among them all] for advertisings.

[ayu_fan929]

i think this was mentioned earlier...but u ppl have to remember hikki gets the copyright for her songs, whenever her songs get played on radio or on MTV etc, she gets a bunch of $, ayu doesnt get that...o yea n didnt hikki have a tour in '04 that made that made a huge profit?

[memories.in the snow a koo theme]

thats alot of money, but why so much for tax Oo?

[lolo66]

Originally Posted by memories.in the snow a koo theme

thats alot of money, but why so much for tax Oo?

The more you earn the more you pay.