Ayu-hate in Japan?

[Dustie]

you forgot about Amuro Namie... she was the the queen before Ayumi, i guess. she lost the throne now - but imagine she was once loved as much as Ayumi is now, girls in Japan just wanted to be like her.

and i really do wonder who's gonna be next... i think a new queen should appear a bit before the end of Ayumi's career -- Ayu appeared in 1999, when Namie was still "there", though not that powerful anymore.


some people here said Mika Nakashima isn't as good as Ayu/Hikki -- obviously, she IS! she does very different music, we can't put them together and compare, but she has the class and quality. she might not be as mainstream or popular as Ayu/Hikki, but she's there and it shows.

[Tasked]

Well.... Namie Amuro may have been very popular before Ayu's era, but she is NOWHERE near Ayu's stage.. Utada Hikaru also is not a queen. She is a musician. If you'd ask people in Japan: "who is ayumi hamasaki?" they would say "A superstar / the queen of jpop", but if you'd ask "who is utada hikaru?" they would say "An amazing singer". And that's exactly what Utada is. An amazing singer, NOT some overproduced jpop idol pushed to the top to reign over Japan...

The only person that can be compared with Ayu's state is Yuming. Not many people know her anymore, though she is still highly respected in Japan. The respect that she has is amazing. Yuming too had many different faces like Ayu. But she also was a great singer rather than a hot babe. Anyway, Yuming left a great impact on Japan. Many and MANY artists still cover her songs that are just worth gold. Think of Sotsugyou Shashin, think of Haru yo, Koi.... Those are all Yuming.

But that was long ago. Now it's Ayu. Ayu is much more powerful than any other artist ever in Japan. She has a way better image, she is produced way better and more modern than Yuming. She has way better looks, way more money into her songs. But Ayu does not yet have the enormous respect that Yuming has. But, just like Max Matsuura said, in 10 years Ayu's first hits will be seen as golden oldies, an she will be another Yuming. But first of course her stardom is fading. She was EVERYWHERE in Japan. On every corner, every billboard. She is a product. And that now is fading; the rest will come later.

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by Rody!

The only person that can be compared with Ayu's state is Yuming. Not many people know her anymore, though she is still highly respected in Japan.

Not everyone in Japan is 15-20 years old. Do you think all the people who listened to Yumi Arai in the 1970's and 1980's and 1990's and 2000's just forgot she ever existed?

I'm just picking out this comment to restate what I've posted before. Ayu is not the all-important person that some people seem to think she is. She isn't the center of the Japanese cultural universe. I'm only hoping to add some perspective to this topic.

[truehappiness]

omg rody u reply 2 my topic!

[fake ungrammarnazi!]

Zeo

[ame-no-koe]

maybe those girls are showing respect for ayu cause they are quiet, maybe ayu is intimadating. many love ayu. i went to guam for vacation last year and i met this beautiful 26yr old but she looked 17yrsold diving instructor named ayachan. she didnt speak much english so i was speaking to her in japanese, and i was asking her musical interests and she was just like "hamasaki ayumi", ayu has alot of influence. and in another instance i was vacationing in disneyland in california and i met students studying in overseas in california, i was speaking to them and i asked their musical interests and they also said "hamasaki ayumi" alot of people love ayumi. but there are some that not know of ayu very much like an acquaintance i met named chiesan she isnt very much into pop but more so into punk, she likes the michelle gun elephant, more into that scene. so maybe it depends on the scene? i dunno. but anyways everyone should love ayu cause they jsut should.

[truehappiness]

I'm kind of worried for ayu, as some people I know say that no japanese person they have met have liked ayu.. :\ [this person is japanese] And she says that Ayu sounds like a 3 y/o and can be compared to the likes of Hilary and Britney...

x.x
Zeo

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I'm kind of worried for ayu, as some people I know say that no japanese person they have met have liked ayu.. :\ x.x
Zeo

don't worry~!

my friend had an exchange student and when she asked her who she liked she said she liked Ayu alot and i met her and i told her i liked Ayu and she did the peace sign and said "MEE TOO!"

[ame-no-koe]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I'm kind of worried for ayu, as some people I know say that no japanese person they have met have liked ayu.. :\ [this person is japanese] And she says that Ayu sounds like a 3 y/o and can be compared to the likes of Hilary and Britney...

x.x
Zeo

you didn't read my post ><

[lovia]

WAITWAIT

i think u shouldnt compare it like this... u have to see who are the other guests on that show... and in the 10th Sept music station, Kanjani 8 and Exile is there.. so perhaps.. the girls whom we saw are their fans... and another thing mayb i wanna point out ... this maynot be true but this is what i get from most of my fellow web friends... many johnny fans hate ayu.. =\ bcoz of sales...yeah.. no offence to johnny fans.. but this is what i got feedback from...
so perhaps see this in a positive way.. perhaps they are not ayu fans thats why... so what if u are the most popular artiste? there will still be people who are not your fan, right? so cool down people =)

[Coelacanth]

Best selling Japanese artists -

01. B'z; 71,878,000
02. Mr. Children; 46,207,000
03. SOUTHERN ALL STARS; 43,937,000
04. Ayumi Hamasaki; 41,074,000
05. DREAMS COME TRUE; 40,065,000
06. Yumi Matsutoya; 37,594,000
07. GLAY; 35,798,000
08. ZARD; 35,451,000
09. Hikaru Utada; 32,158,000
10. CHAGE & ASKA; 31,192,000

Most of those artists in the top 10 still sell great today. And Ayu is almost ahead of SAS, whom have been out 25+ years.. I think Ayu has a strong (and dedicated) enough fanbase to help her for another 10 years.

Although a lot of people may hate her for whatever reasons, SHE STILL IS A DOMINATING ARTIST. I'm sick of these declining popularity threads..

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by Phantoma

06. Yumi Matsutoya; 37,594,000

is she "Yumming"??

[Coelacanth]

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi

is she "Yumming"??

Yep.

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by Phantoma

Best selling Japanese artists -
01. B'z; 71,878,000
02. Mr. Children; 46,207,000
03. SOUTHERN ALL STARS; 43,937,000
04. Ayumi Hamasaki; 41,074,000

WOW!! 3 MILLION MORE AND SHE'S TOP 3!!! I cant wait for my copy of HEAVEN! Saturday Saturday Saturday!!!

[truehappiness]

Huh? I was talking just randomly about someone who said it recently.. x.x xD

Anyways, this wasn't meant to be a declining popularity thing, but more of a reaction to some public ayu hate xD I think she's still marvelous and <3

Zeo

[HvnSntGurl]

I didn't like Ayu at first. I think it's normal though for someone as popular as her to have people hate her because she's everywhere. Some famous stars I can't stand because there EVERYWHERE. So thats probably why some people don't like her.

[Surreal]

Namie : Yes they did clap and cheer when the host introduced Ayu . But went quiet once the talk began. (this is the case for every celebrity. the audiences are usually very respectful in japan)

[emi♡]

namie amuro=short skirts and tall boots i love it

i think that Ayu will only ever (if ever) decline in Japan, although i dont think she will. She will always have her fans overseas because for the reasons the japanese "hate" her, we don't have those reasons, like seeing her on TV in magazines, on billboards, etc. I think i would go crazt if i was in Japan and saw Ayu on TV...

we are not overexposed to Ayu, its quite the opposite we want more... and i think Ayu will continue to make music for as long as she wants to, even if she has to do it without Avex.

[Qt Mashi]

why would Johnny's fans hate Ayu??

[ayu_fan929]

^well i guess miyuchan specifically meant TOKIO fans (but TOKIO is part of Johnny's, n also mayb cos of the HEAVEN vs. K8 battle?) but yea TOKIO fans hate ayu cos shes going out w/nagase (i think hes like the kimutaku of TOKIO ie: the most well-liked out of the group [i think, im not sure])

[Qt Mashi]

^hehe icic so some Tomoya Nagase fan girls are jealous of Ayu hehe

anyone here who is jealous of Tomoya because he's going out with Ayumi ?

...i am...!!!