COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010-2011 A ~do it again~ Live Broadcast

[NekoF4]

I thought this was going to be like hikki's
guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens

[Sugichan]

A lot of money goes into making her concerts, I'm sure I can't even begin to imagine the price associated with it so I hope that everyone who can see her will, whether in person or streaming. I am unable to attend her concerts, and I feel the people who can see her are very fortunate. Money comes and goes but Ayu is forever so let's cheer her on!

[truehappiness]

LOL! 40$!

Hahhahah I'm just laughing at Ayu and Avex right now, that's pathetic.

I'd rather save 40$, download it for free the next day, add another 20$ or so a couple of months later so I can get the DVD and watch it over and over and over whenever I want, including the encore.

I think their logic behind it is that you are basically seeing it 'live' since you are getting to see footage mere hours after it has happened. I mean... it costs some people hundreds of dollars to see CDL live so this is really discounted compared to what you would normally pay for the live experience. I know it's not the same, but I guess they want you to think of it like this: You pay to see Ayu once live in concert, and you might possibly buy the DVD later if you want to re-experience the concert. However for this, you're paying to see the recording without paying any of the subscription fees for SkyPerfecTV and are not seeing it live as it's happening. (Though you are seeing it hours later.)

The way I see it, you're paying to get a really really really early copy of the performance that will also probably be ripped for people to download after it airs. I don't know why people keep throwing around "I'm gonna just get it for free" when that's what they would have done regardless of whether CDL was free-to-watch or not online.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I don't know why people keep throwing around "I'm gonna just get it for free" when that's what they would have done regardless of whether CDL was free-to-watch or not online.

I agree with this part =) And really, everyone who though it would be for free is very naive...

[ExodusUK]

How many people have signed up for it? I swear some of you would defend and rationalize with Ayu and Avex if Ayu pick pocketed your wallet, grabbed all the cash and cards in it and threw it back in your face.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by ExodusUK

How many people have signed up for it? I swear some of you would defend and rationalize with Ayu and Avex if Ayu pick pocketed your wallet, grabbed all the cash and cards in it and threw it back in your face.

I know Avex likes to milk fans, I'm not denying that, but expecting to get a service for free is a little ridiculous. People act like they charged them the price of the actual concert tickets when really it's not that bad of a deal. And yes, throwing the "pay $40? I'm just going to rip it for free" is a very ungrateful IF you're one of the people who requested the service. Ayu has proven throughout the entire year that she acknowledges and cares about her foreign fans but there is only so much she can do for us. And if people are going to be ungrateful about everything she's tried to do and is continuing to do, what gives her the incentive to do anything for us in the future? Seriously, some of her fans are so spoiled, selfish and disgusting! I didn't ask for the live stream nor did I plan on purchasing it but I might just do it anyway to support her efforts to make it available to fans abroad.

[Keiichi_JPU]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

Seriously, some of her fans are so spoiled, selfish and disgusting!

Calm down.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU

Calm down.

I am calm, dear. But it's true, I'm sorry.

[Keiichi_JPU]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

I am calm, dear. But it's true, I'm sorry.

No one is "disgusting" for having an opinion imho. Of course it's a different thing to say "OMG I hate Ayu she's evil and she doesn't care about us!" or something like that. But all I said is that I think Avex made the stream expensive, and I even added I absolutely don't blame Ayu for it and her intentions were right.

Unless you weren't even talking about me when you said that, in which case I apologize

@TrueHappiness: You're spot-on about the pay TV. I think that's the entire reason. To make it fair towards the people who pay for that channel.

[Misa-chan]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

And yes, throwing the "pay $40? I'm just going to rip it for free" is a very ungrateful IF you're one of the people who requested the service.

I think they're all too ashamed to post.

So ironic. It's the people who didn't care either way in the first place who are buying the tickets now and making up the numbers for their sake.

[truehappiness]

To be honest, I was never really that big on the USTREAM thing (read: I never cared if she did it or not since I usually get the DVD anyway) but people really seemed to push it on Ayu and Max. The frustrating thing is that the same people who wanted this got it, but it wasn't exactly what they wanted (free), so they're complaining about it and would rather it have never happened. Just what kind of message is that supposed to send?

I doubt many overseas fans who requested this will be paying for it because they'll be off downloading it for free, but I do hope that a lot of Japanese fans who were unable to get tickets can see the concert.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

To be honest, I was never really that big on the USTREAM thing (read: I never cared if she did it or not since I usually get the DVD anyway) but people really seemed to push it on Ayu and Max. The frustrating thing is that the same people who wanted this got it, but it wasn't exactly what they wanted (free), so they're complaining about it and would rather it have never happened. Just what kind of message is that supposed to send?

I doubt many overseas fans who requested this will be paying for it because they'll be off downloading it for free, but I do hope that a lot of Japanese fans who were unable to get tickets can see the concert.

Well, I'm pretty sure she made it to see how was it going to be more than expecting a huge success...

[Misa-chan]

I didn't care for it at first too. But now that she has made it possible, I am really tempted to buy it. CDLs are always awesome.

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by Misa-chan

I didn't care for it at first too. But now that she has made it possible, I am really tempted to buy it. CDLs are always awesome.

buy it then. i just bought my ticket through TA shop.

[Misa-chan]

Originally Posted by LacusClyne

buy it then. i just bought my ticket through TA shop.

Lol but the thing is I'll be on a family holiday then. Not in the country, no computers too. By the time I get back, I can probably catch the very last replay. So if I buy a ticket, it's really just for support only, since I doubt I can watch it.

[indyplus]

Originally Posted by LacusClyne

buy it then. i just bought my ticket through TA shop.

How were you able to buy it through TA?

[Ayusan]

I dunno what to do, 30 euros for an encoreless live ... if it was minus 1000 yens I would buy a ticket without thinking twice but there, I still don't know what to do. I didn't buy the last CDL so I don't even think in "DVD to be released" term, more : is it really worthy ?

[Amrai-chan]

If this doesn't do well then Avex might say to Ayu don't listen to the international fans. I can understand not getting the tickets because I'm not. I hope this goes well.

[Ayusan]

I still don't know if I buy a ticket but my biggest problem is : lowspeed or highspeed ? My internet is having so much trouble lately -_- they are surely playing with the network for a change =o=
But yeah, I wouldn't like to buy a highspeed ticket and realize that they work on the network or dunno what and low my inet speed ! But if I buy a lowspeed ticket and realize that I regret ... urgh I'm complicated !

I didn't think it would be free, it's Avex, it's a bit stupid to think it would be free !
Now, I paid much more for Emilie Autumn's book this summer, then this is damn cheaper, even if I'm obviously aware that it not that cheap in a way and some can't pay, but I don't smoke nor spend my money in clubbing and outrageaous drink, so ...

What I fear is Avex calling for Ayu and tell her that her overseas fans ask for this and this but in the end they didn't give a damn.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by Ayusan

What I fear is Avex calling for Ayu and tell her that her overseas fans ask for this and this but in the end they didn't give a damn.

My whole point exactly. I hope it doesn't come to that...