[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~again~

[Didz-19]

i hope it's not gonna be "NOTHING FROM NOTHING" all over again~ just kidding!!

[brener]

crap sales....

[TeamAyu2004]

this is only something like 3 days... thats what half of LOVE had and its about on par with LOVE...

[Zeke.]

Wow, she's doing so well.

[Delicious n Bold]

I just hope she passes 50k

[TeamAyu2004]

It will. no worries there. I think in the long run it will do rather well...
I think with these types of songs however it looks like we are going to get song 4 u at the year end show... :*(

[MeyChan]

I don't understand hm... ./////.
Today is 9th December :s
5th day??

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1st Week
1st Day
- <-------------- First day sales: 0k?

2nd Day
- <--------------- Second day sales: 0k?

3rd Day
Position: #4
Sales: 9,087 <------ And then.. third day 9k???

4th Day
Position: #2
Sales: 12,764
Total Sales: 21,851

5th Day
Position: #6
Sales: x
Total Sales: 21,851 + x

[TeamAyu2004]

^ it didnt appear on the charts till friday.

[TeamAyu2004]

I wasnt talking to you. I was talking to Zeke. and ever_free about the single, there are two more releases.

besides that, a digital single doesnt count in the eyes of oricon and that includes a ton of people. So she didnt have have a single for Party Queen.

And as for sales, you really cant judge just yet... its been released for 3 (maybe 4 days) and if you look at sales for again and compare them to LOVE they are about the same right now.

as for paying more... you are not. You pay for what you get. Label it whatever pleases you, it will still cost the same. She could of called it AYUMI'S GODLOVING MINI/EP/SINGLE/ALBUM/I'MAYUMI***** I CAN CALL THIS WHATEVER I WANT TO. it will still cost the same.

but now that I think of it her next title should be: AYUMI'S GODLOVING MINI/EP/SINGLE/ALBUM/I'MAYUMI***** I CAN CALL THIS WHATEVER I WANT TO.

it has a nice ring to it.

[visionfactory]

I want to think that people forgot that this mini was relesed in a weird day and they plan to buy it next week...

[Tony G]

^ that's wishful thinking. No chance this is going to match LOVE's sales.

Trying to pinpoint the reasons for such a sharp drop in sales in ONE MONTH, could only be two things:
- the controversy with Maro has angered some of ayu's loyal fans, who have boycotted this release
- this release came out so close to the release of LOVE, therefore there really isn't the same amount of anticipation here

I'm thinking its a combination of both factors, but more likely the negative publicity has hurt Ayu. It's really telling through these sales. Generally, sales go up closer to Christmas.

Can't say lack of promotion is to blame, or the release not having enough original material, as on both those points this mini has over LOVE.

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by Tony G

^ that's wishful thinking. No chance this is going to match LOVE's sales.

i dont see how you can say this when we dont even have the first full week of again's sales... just in the first 3 days of sales we are at about 30K thats half of what LOVE had in the first week.

Wait till it has a full week of sales before writing it off.

[Didz-19]

Can't wait what will come after "A CLASSICAL"! "LOVE" was great...but I think "again" is more better! I love "Wake Me Up"...it's been on repeat, and i haven't start listening to the second track~!!!!

[Leaf King]

I bought LOVE but not again. Reason? It's December, and I've had to spend quite a lot of money thus far on presents and preparations for Christmas. Those things are a priority, and I can see other people having a similar mindset. (I'm not really talking about the quality of the release, but my reasoning behind a purchase of this kind in general at this time of the year).

[Tony G]

I think it's a pretty safe bet, Ayu's sales very rarely rise exponentially in the 2nd half of the week they've been on sale. Plus there's no promotion to trigger such an unlikely event. This is being realistic. The only chance it has of surpassing LOVE is with some sales longetivity, not quick gains.

[TeamAyu2004]

we are looking at 40-50K for five days and thats not bad for what this release is. after 7 full days it might even be close to 60K..
Love was 64K in the first week...

i never said anything about exponential sales, I'm going by the first 3 days and stuff off of LOVE sales.

[truehappiness]

She's there, just at the concerts and all that. And the Namie argument is pretty out there imo considering that Namie doesn't really change all that much from release to release. She does have catchy tracks going for her but IMO that doesn't really mean she puts all that much effort into them compared to Ayu. It's funny to see someone say Ayu hasn't 'changed her style' when she's pretty much one who has changed her style the most compared to most other acts, just not so much recently since she's been buried in a sea of medium temponess. again seems to be breaking away from that with actually-uptempo catchy tracks and Ayu working with a western/UK producer for the 'main track' which is something she hasn't done before. I think people are way too negative when it comes to Ayu releases if they don't for some reason check all of the 'required wants' on a list (amazing PV, awesome compositions/arrangement, great lyrics, memorable covers, and so on) and just aren't happy if it lacks one or more of the above.

I also wish she had more dynamic PVs more often but there's not really much we can do about it. I just look forward to future releases since we can usually expect something new eventually.

[Didz-19]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

She's there, just at the concerts and all that. And the Namie argument is pretty out there imo considering that Namie doesn't really change all that much from release to release. She does have catchy tracks going for her but IMO that doesn't really mean she puts all that much effort into them compared to Ayu. It's funny to see someone say Ayu hasn't 'changed her style' when she's pretty much one who has changed her style the most compared to most other acts, just not so much recently since she's been buried in a sea of medium temponess. again seems to be breaking away from that with actually-uptempo catchy tracks and Ayu working with a western/UK producer for the 'main track' which is something she hasn't done before. I think people are way too negative when it comes to Ayu releases if they don't for some reason check all of the 'required wants' on a list (amazing PV, awesome compositions/arrangement, great lyrics, memorable covers, and so on) and just aren't happy if it lacks one or more of the above.

I also wish she had more dynamic PVs more often but there's not really much we can do about it. I just look forward to future releases since we can usually expect something new eventually.

apparently the composer from UK had make some songs for Namie Amuro and Koda Kumi~just so you know~~

[TeamAyu2004]

Move your body, move your body,
Dance for your papi


lol.

by the way, did they ever say who the UK dude was?

[Jawdarna]

Sales are disappointing, but it's always been this way since I am... so, it's not a huge deal.
Gosh, I remember back in 2007 when GUILTY only sold 400K or so in its first week, and AHS was going into meltdown mode.
If only Ayu could sell that now!!!

Perhaps Ayu should create another I am.../RAINBOW, in the sense of writing lyrics about the external environment and its effect on Ayumi Hamasaki, rather than her discombobulated love life. I mean, the songs on these two albums are some of the most popular in her discography...they allow a greater form of relation from Ayu to her audience. I feel that I can no longer properly relate to Ayu's newer work, but songs from that 2001/2002 era like WE WISH, Everywhere Nowhere, evolution, UNITE, etc. resonate so well. Even beautiful songs like Sweet scar seem to only scratch the surface; they don't reach out to you...

Of course, this is a personal opinion undeniably bias as I love Ayu from 2000 to 2005.