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Old 29th April 2007, 10:43 PM
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it's his character. And we shouldn't talk about how he knows could foresee this happening. Before, he kept saying that it's not a big deal when someone lipsync, but ayu fans just made it bigger than it was. So now, here we are.
Wow then he should check his character if he goes saying stuff without informing himself. It's no excuse. And yes he should know how to forsee this. He's a celebrity and whatever he says shall end up scrunitised. It's common knowledge and he's not like some newcomer.

If I remember right he mentioned how in HK artists are scolded when they lipsynch so it is a big deal huh? Yes, Ayu fans made it bigger, but it's pretty much his fault. Maybe next time he'll think twice before he goes making negative claims on other artists.
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Old 29th April 2007, 10:46 PM
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Wow then he should check his character if he goes saying stuff without informing himself. It's no excuse. And yes he should know how to forsee this. He's a celebrity and whatever he says shall end up scrunitised. It's common knowledge and he's not like some newcomer.

If I remember right he mentioned how in HK artists are scolded when they lipsynch so it is a big deal huh? Yes, Ayu fans made it bigger, but it's pretty much his fault. Maybe next time he'll think twice before he goes making negative claims on other artists.
Well, that might be how you see it. But I just want to forgive his actions now because talking about his past will not solve anything.
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Old 29th April 2007, 10:53 PM
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Well, that might be how you see it. But I just want to forgive his actions now because talking about his past will not solve anything.
If you want to be forgiving that's your buisness. However some people do not feel that way, me included. He did something which was disrespectful and many do not appreciate that artists behave in this manner.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:16 PM
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If you want to be forgiving that's your buisness. However some people do not feel that way, me included. He did something which was disrespectful and many do not appreciate that artists behave in this manner.
Agreed, 100%.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:08 PM
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If I remember right he mentioned how in HK artists are scolded when they lipsynch so it is a big deal huh?
He said in HK, artists get scolded when they lip synch because HK people automatically think that lip synch = bad singer. He's trying to tell the public that it's not always the case.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:19 PM
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Wow then he should check his character if he goes saying stuff without informing himself. It's no excuse. And yes he should know how to forsee this. He's a celebrity and whatever he says shall end up scrunitised. It's common knowledge and he's not like some newcomer.
I'd also like to point out that we shouldn't go around assuming how he should think. Because just by doing that, we are contradicting ourselves when we go around assuming how Eason thinks after he assumed that Ayu lipsync-ed.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:28 PM
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I'd also like to point out that we shouldn't go around assuming how he should think. Because just by doing that, we are contradicting ourselves when we go around assuming how Eason thinks after he assumed that Ayu lipsync-ed.
Don't even compare us to Eason. It's a completely different situation altogether. I agree with Demure Dusk. He's not a newcomer to this business and if he doesn't know to keep his mouth shut when he needs to, then he must be seriously either severely braindead or trying to get publicity.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:32 PM
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he might be skilled but what about mistakes?
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:39 PM
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he might be skilled but what about mistakes?
It's more than just a mistake to go to the MEDIA and badmouth another celebrity.. He could have just gone and told his friends or something but to go right to the media to badmouth her.. then he's taken it to a whole new level.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:44 PM
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he didn't go looking for media to blabber about. He was interviewed and there is a possibility that it could have slipped out of his mouth.
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he didn't go looking for media to blabber about. He was interviewed and there is a possibility that it could have slipped out of his mouth.
Theres always a possibility of this and theres always a possibility of that. But at the end of the day he did what he did, no excuses.

On a side note, if it "slipped" out of his mouth then what was with those dirty looks and faces he was putting on when he talked about it
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he didn't go looking for media to blabber about. He was interviewed and there is a possibility that it could have slipped out of his mouth.
Well too bad for him if it "slipped out of his mouth" then he deserves the bad attention he got. (I doubt this since as I mentioned he's not a newcomer.) Seriously celebrities should know better.

evolution7931 is right. Eason is now looking for pity after he messed up. Too bad that he won't get it from everyone.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:50 PM
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which is why at the end of the day, he apologized.

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On a side note, if it "slipped" out of his mouth then what was with those dirty looks and faces he was putting on when he talked about it
that was how you interpreted it and that shouldn't be evidence even if it were dirty looks.
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which is why at the end of the day, he apologized.
Did he? Depends on interpretation. I saw it differently. I'll quote Skia's interpretation here:

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If I knew this will hurt you so much I'd never tell the obvious truth about your lip-synch to the public"
Mostly it was a load of excuses and the claim that she lipsynched wasn't cleared.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:57 PM
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that was how you interpreted it and that shouldn't be evidence even if it were dirty looks.
Yeah now you're just digging for excuses for Eason. A dirty look is a dirty look, nobody interprets that as sunshine and happiness, or even merely respectful for that matter.

edit: Yeah if you wanna respect him for it then go right ahead. But don't go saying anything else about people who don't then.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:56 PM
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well, if he believes in that, I respect his opinion.
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well, if he believes in that, I respect his opinion.
You might but I don't respect that at all. Obviously she wasn't lipsynching and many people confirmed that.
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Old 29th April 2007, 11:58 PM
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sorry, but I saw a neutral face. cultural barrier? maybe, because I'm chinese.

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edit: Yeah if you wanna respect him for it then go right ahead. But don't go saying anything else about people who don't then.
I think we're allowed to express our views on AHS... rite?
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sorry, but I saw a neutral face. cultural barrier? maybe, because I'm chinese.
Yeah I guess I just saw a dirty look because I'm not Asian
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I work in a department store. Let's just say that I said a customer looked fat. And then the person I told it to went and told everyone that I said that, and the customer found out too. ... Even if I tell my manager '' If i knew it would hurt the customers feelings i wouldnt have said it " Does that make it alright? Does that make it all better? No.
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