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| View Poll Results: Who's the best vocalist? | |||
| Ayumi Hamasaki |
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37 | 22.02% |
| Hikaru Utada |
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33 | 19.64% |
| Koda Kumi |
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28 | 16.67% |
| Namie Amuro |
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20 | 11.90% |
| Mika Nakashima |
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17 | 10.12% |
| Others (please state in the thread) |
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33 | 19.64% |
| Voters: 168. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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^ theres one thing in this i need to disagree with, Namies range is TINY! I doubt it's actually near 3 octaves, which is like...the minimum of skilled singers How can a tiny range be amazing?
And she is far from being a great singer, its obvious that many off notes on her concerts had to be corrected afterwards and she rarely shows power in her voice(though there ARE some songs where she does) Though I do agree that her voice has a nice sound, I actually prefer her live recordings over her studio ones because she doesnt sound as bored live as on her studio recordings. Do Me More was horrible on Best Fiction, chorus totally killed it. and you dont need to be able to sing to be famous, look at britney spears |
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^ Thank you! >_< I also think she's lucky if she has much more than two octaves. That's the main reason I don't consider her a good singer. But whatever you like, I suppose.... Like you said, singers today don't need to have an ounce of talent to be known. It's really more about luck than anything. :\
And actually, I was watching a few days ago some videos of Britney Spears when she was a kid. She actually USED to be good, lol. >___> I dunno what happened, 'cause now....oh boy. .
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Hikki out of these
...this is a really close poll though.
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Namie Amuro
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hikki
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I'm going to give credit to where credit is due and vote "Other".
There are other Japanese female singers who have better trained and controlled vocals than these "well known" ladies. I am a devoted fan to some of the artists listed but I'm going to keep it real and put 'fandom' aside. There are MUCH better female vocalists in Japan. (Misia "phenomenal vocals", ayaka, Thelma Aoyama, Crystal Kay, Beni, Superfly, Angela Aki, Miho Fukuhara "superb voice range", etc...)
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Last edited by Lady~Deviance; 18th June 2011 at 07:33 PM. |
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安室奈美恵
浜崎あゆみ 倖田來未 Others: alan |
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ayu
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Yes, In 2011 she was. Namie has token her place. Girl could deliver, even while dancing like crazy for 2 hours.
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MISIA (one of the greatest voice in the world)
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Namie and Mika are both great, but the best J-Pop vocalist is easily MISIA. Her voice is just...godly.
EDIT: ^ Yay, I'm not alone! |
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^Are you even kidding me? Then why are they so loud during Ayu's performances? And I never heard the audience edited out during hers.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard that 'out of respect' bs -- fans are fans everywhere, of course they're going to be excited for their favorite performer so shouting/applause will be inevitable anywhere. I believed that at first too until I saw enough performances by Japanese artists where that wasn't the case. I don't even know about the microphone 'almost inside her mouth' bit because I don't pay that close attention to notice whether it is or not. Even if it is though, that really means nothing. I've heard artists that were amped up to the max with backing vocals and surround sounds and still sounded weak when they were performing live. Utada rarely uses backing vocals and when she does her voice soars over them (IE: Devil Inside). Anyway, I've been listening to more of Ayaka's music and I have to say, she is really impressive. Her voice transitions between notes so smoothly (as weird as that might sound). I've listened to Alan, and I think she was just a miss with me. I can certainly see where people would appreciate her vocals, because they 'do' have a pretty quality, they're just not my cup of tea. I also really love YUI's vocals, even though she doesn't have the biggest range ever. Her voice sounds really youthful for being 25ish (I could be wrong).
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@Not Fade Away
They sound loud during Ayu lives cuz Ayu's style of concert focus a lot on audience interaction, while Utada's doesn't focus on it at all... Still, even in Ayu concerts, for most of her career, the audience only cheered when they were demanded to (her staple songs like Boys & Girls, evolution, Trauma, etc.). You will never see people screaming while she sings ballads or mid tempos, and those kind of music are 90% of Utada's discography... On the same way it works with Ayu, when Hikki ask some reaction from the audience, u can hear them... When they aren't asked to, they keep there watching her sing... About back up vocals... Utada doesn't use them, but use pre-recorded backing vocals of her own, that have the exactly same effect of backing up vocals: Making your voice sounding stronger. And about she singing louder than her backtrack, this is a very strange comment, cuz the sound of the main vocalist's microphone is always louder than the backup singers and backtracks... everyone sings louder than their backup singers and backtracks unless they want to be oversang, something very common on heavy coreographed performances... Still, the fact that even some singers I dislike are able to sing with as much power as Utada without having to almost swallow their microphones is symptomatic... |
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@RayJason: She definitely puts more emphasis on dancing, I completely agree, but people have been saying she just sounds completely horrible live, which is untrue. IMO, she still sounds good live. I'm not saying she's incredible let's all give a standing ovation, but to say she sucks is just crazy.
What I mean't was that, for being exhausted from dancing and then singing, her singing is pretty good. @Andrenekoi: I heard people cheering all during Microphone, in several spots of Moon, in most of Memorial Address (after each time she held that long note that leads out from the chorus), in Because of You, in Lady Dynamite, etc etc during Rock 'N' Roll Circus tour, and that's just THAT tour. I actually think Utada's focuses on audience interaction about the same (but that's because she does more MC than most JPop artists) -- if it weren't for her MCs, I would agree on that point. And that's what I meant by backing vocals for Utada -- her own, I just didn't specify or whatever, so sorry. A lot of artists get drowned out by their backing vocals (whether it's their own pre-recorded voice, or actual people) it definitely happens to Namie a lot on her more dance-oriented songs - like you mentioned with choreographed songs. But I've also heard Ayu get drowned out on songs too and she doesn't even dance. What I'm saying is that Utada's backing vocals are more like just a whisper in the background that you occasionally notice when she's not singing because her live voice is just that dominant. Case in point being Sakura Drops or Devil Inside - again. I really don't understand this 'swallows the microphone' comment, I guess I'm going to have to go watch her lives again because I really just have no idea what you're talking about. My three favorite artists are Utada, Namie and Ayu. And I usually categorize their concerts as follows: Utada: Powerhouse Voice x More Intimate Concerts Namie: Amazing Dancing x Nightclub-Vibe Concerts Ayu: Phenomenal Theatrics x Going to see a Broadway Show Type of Concert That's always been my opinion but it's just that - my opinion. Just like yours is that she's not a powerhouse singer, so cool. There's not going to be a compromise or anything, so I'll just leave it at that. EDT: Sorry, I'm not trying to come off sounding like an a*hole, I'm just having a very stressful day. Plus I know that when it comes to opinions, people are very set in stone, and I am definitely one of those people (with the exception of modern social issues lol).
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Anyway, I'm not saying she is a horrible vocalist... But just as Ayu and Namie (who happen to be my favorite jpop starts too), she is average... not the best over there, not the worst... totally capable of holding her own on most songs on her good days and having some really amazing performances here and there to call her own. I myself classify the 3 women this way: Ayumi Hamasaki: Amazing stage presence and crowd control, the best in jpop Namie Amuro: (since Play Tour) skilled singer-dancer Hikaru Utada: Music focused concerts, with amazing arrangments and interpretations |
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That said, when a singer stands close to the microphone it gives a more personal, intense look rather than them standing casually away from it. With Utada favouring more personal performances, this would make sense. So, her distance to the microphone does not show her lack of power in her voice. It's more how she prefers to look as she performs. |
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Hikki, no competition.
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Angela Aki
she sounds amazing live. |
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Ayumi Hamasaki.
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Definitely Nana Mizuki she is underrated beacause she is a seiyu/singer but I have never seen an other singer succeed a three hours live without lip synch and hit all notes perfectly even better than on studio, furthermore she dance and had a great stage presence !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gegdIiX8L50 However I know there are many other fantastic singer =) |
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