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Old 18th January 2012, 09:19 AM
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Old 18th January 2012, 09:37 AM
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I don't really know what happened and the truth will probably never come out but personally I don't think they tried hard enough. I was actually surprised that she used the earthquake as the reason, it seemed more like an excuse really.
Honestly I felt that mentioning the earthquake was in bad taste as well. Partly because that just doesn't make sense. Before the earthquake even happened, she had the Hotel Love Songs tour scheduled, so earthquake or not, she was already planning to be in Japan at that time. I would like her statement a lot more if she had just simply admitted that she made a mistake and that she rushed into marriage too quickly. There really is no good excuse to not see your husband for a year when you have the means and ability to do so.

I also am not dismissing the possibility that this could have been a PR stunt. I would hate to think that though and I remember giving her the benefit of the doubt at the time. I actually thought her marrying a foreigner was a good move because most Japanese men probably wouldn't be able to handle her. But now in retrospect the way the events played out and now her imo, flimsy reasoning in her statement and the fact that the marriage was not even registered in her home country seem to push even more in that direction.

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Old 18th January 2012, 09:40 AM
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Old 18th January 2012, 09:41 AM
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Old 18th January 2012, 09:45 AM
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Im sad because I feel this divorced issue will bring down her career..
I wonder if her next album can sell more than FIVE.
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Old 18th January 2012, 09:49 AM
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But that's life, isn't it? When we fall, we pick ourselves up and keep moving forward.
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It was rather foolish of ayu to marry in such a hurry, yes. Now she's paying for it. But I honestly believe that the media is being way TOO harsh on her.

And that Love song PV screencap came over harsh as well. :/

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Old 18th January 2012, 09:55 AM
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I was on topic except for answering Emiko. And ignoring Summoner. Now on topic, if you don't already, you can follow katsukitwins & saatantan on twitter for some updates in english of the japanese press they are seeing in Ayu's hometown of Fukuoka.
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Old 18th January 2012, 10:31 AM
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I feel similar to George and SunshineSlayer. If the marriage was for real, they should have tried harder to make it work. Now it seems like they married for reasons that I'm not even sure of....and why mention the earthquake at all? These days I kind of miss the times when we knew almost nothing of Ayus private affairs. Back then you only knew she had a boyfriend and that's it. Or between 2007 and 2010 - no news of Ayu in a relationship. I really love Ayu - her posts at TA, her lyrics and often her tweets make me think she is an emotionally very intelligent strong woman. But this whole marriage/divorce thing makes me doubt it and I hate that. I just hope it'll blow over soon and then it will be forgotten.
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Old 18th January 2012, 10:53 AM
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Also, she didn't actually stay in Japan after the earthquake happened, she went here and there for recordings and photoshoots and 3D film premiere.
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Old 18th January 2012, 11:00 AM
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I think that was just meaning from the end of February when she returned from LA to June when she left Japan for the 1st time since the quake, for a vacation with friends in Bali.
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Old 18th January 2012, 12:36 PM
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people should just stop guessing and saying "they didn't try hard enough", how do you know they didn't try??

Maybe Mannie thought he could accept Ayu's busy schedule and in the end it affected their relationship...BUT WHO KNOWS???

i'm sad and disappointed their marriage didn't work out! BUT I JUST HOPE AYU'S OKAY!!
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Old 18th January 2012, 12:45 PM
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wow.. what a long discussion about this whole marriage n divorce thing.
as a such independent and strong woman like we always know (or not?), still hard to believe that if she actually would follow avex's instruction to have this whole marriage for boosting her album sales.. or else she decided to do herself. hmmm~

sigh.. we'll never know what's the real truth n what's not in the entertainment industry, guess that we shouldn't be really believe the artist too much lols.
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Old 18th January 2012, 12:58 PM
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I don't think it was foolish of her to marry right away :/ Just because they're getting divorced doesn't mean it was a mistake to marry. She wanted it at the time, so she went ahead and followed her heart, however clichéd that sounds. Kudos for Ayu for living in the moment and not being all rational scared of trying to be happy. I don't think anyone suffers more from the divorce than they already would from simply parting ways. No matter what she did, she did it for happiness and no one has the right to shake a finger at what they did.
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^Yes! I agree.

Ayu have never showed any tendencies to follow Avex promotion program. We have oh so many examples of that. If find it weird that ppl actually thinks that maybe she did this whole marriage thing as a PR trick when she only 6 months later refuced to follow Avex' lead on a-nation'11.

Silly. Lol. If she would do the marriage just because Avex wanted to I'm quite sure she would have done a-nation just the way Avex wanted to as well.

I feel quite sure that Ayu is being honest with us. Naturally, as Love Shine said earlier, there is some sugarcoating on her explanaiton but she have every right to since it is her private life. I do believe her when she say that the earthquake changed things and thoughts. I do also think that there is something more into it but, there's is no need for Ayu to explain for us their feelings into detail.

Ayu have always been quite closed with her private life. She's more open now than ever. But Ayu have always been honest. So so so honest. To herself and us. That's really admirable. There is so few ppl that sacrifices so much of themselves (image, fans etc) just to stay true. If Ayu haven't been honest, hell she would have made that apology after the whole CDL01-02 drama just to save her skin. But no. She didn't because she was tru to herself. She's always showed that type of character and I'm quite sure that you guys have thought so about her before too. Why change now? Did you let media brainwash you and change your minds towards her?

I think she did a good job protecting Mannie from all this too. I'm pretty sure that was the thing she wanted to most out of all this. As she have done and also said by herself before, she's more than willing to sacrify herself if she can protect others.
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Old 18th January 2012, 01:33 PM
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^Yes! I agree.

Ayu have never showed any tendencies to follow Avex promotion program. We have oh so many examples of that. If find it weird that ppl actually thinks that maybe she did this whole marriage thing as a PR trick when she only 6 months later refuced to follow Avex' lead on a-nation'11.

Silly. Lol. If she would do the marriage just because Avex wanted to I'm quite sure she would have done a-nation just the way Avex wanted to as well.

I feel quite sure that Ayu is being honest with us. Naturally, as Love Shine said earlier, there is some sugarcoating on her explanaiton but she have every right to since it is her private life. I do believe her when she say that the earthquake changed things and thoughts. I do also think that there is something more into it but, there's is no need for Ayu to explain for us their feelings into detail.

Ayu have always been quite closed with her private life. She's more open now than ever. But Ayu have always been honest. So so so honest. To herself and us. That's really admirable. There is so few ppl that sacrifices so much of themselves (image, fans etc) just to stay true. If Ayu haven't been honest, hell she would have made that apology after the whole CDL01-02 drama just to save her skin. But no. She didn't because she was tru to herself. She's always showed that type of character and I'm quite sure that you guys have thought so about her before too. Why change now? Did you let media brainwash you and change your minds towards her?

I think she did a good job protecting Mannie from all this too. I'm pretty sure that was the thing she wanted to most out of all this. As she have done and also said by herself before, she's more than willing to sacrify herself if she can protect others.
wow, so agree with your POV!
i always want to believe ayu, just that sometimes i'm afraid i'm told that i'm too biased about her, LOLS.
but i'm a bit relief.

anyway, ayu did say she'll go to LA next month, from her tweet on 14th January, hmm~~

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taxyuu: Who made these?
ayu_19980408: es’ Ai-pon’s nails @AIKO_esNAIL, for my trip to LA next month (*^^*)v
translation: misachanjpop @ wp

edit: friend said that the translation is wrong, it's supposed to be about ayu's friend to open a nail salon in LA next month~

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Honestly I felt that mentioning the earthquake was in bad taste as well. Partly because that just doesn't make sense. Before the earthquake even happened, she had the Hotel Love Songs tour scheduled, so earthquake or not, she was already planning to be in Japan at that time. I would like her statement a lot more if she had just simply admitted that she made a mistake and that she rushed into marriage too quickly. There really is no good excuse to not see your husband for a year when you have the means and ability to do so.

I also am not dismissing the possibility that this could have been a PR stunt. I would hate to think that though and I remember giving her the benefit of the doubt at the time. I actually thought her marrying a foreigner was a good move because most Japanese men probably wouldn't be able to handle her. But now in retrospect the way the events played out and now her imo, flimsy reasoning in her statement and the fact that the marriage was not even registered in her home country seem to push even more in that direction.
Good points made. I think (or hope) Ayu will elaborate more on everything in the future, and maybe the real reason will come out. I have a hard time believing she would do it as a PR stunt because it almost feels betraying, doesn't it? :/ Time will tell, and I hope Ayu is doing okay.
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^Yes! I agree.

Ayu have never showed any tendencies to follow Avex promotion program. We have oh so many examples of that. If find it weird that ppl actually thinks that maybe she did this whole marriage thing as a PR trick when she only 6 months later refuced to follow Avex' lead on a-nation'11.

Silly. Lol. If she would do the marriage just because Avex wanted to I'm quite sure she would have done a-nation just the way Avex wanted to as well.

I feel quite sure that Ayu is being honest with us. Naturally, as Love Shine said earlier, there is some sugarcoating on her explanaiton but she have every right to since it is her private life. I do believe her when she say that the earthquake changed things and thoughts. I do also think that there is something more into it but, there's is no need for Ayu to explain for us their feelings into detail.

Ayu have always been quite closed with her private life. She's more open now than ever. But Ayu have always been honest. So so so honest. To herself and us. That's really admirable. There is so few ppl that sacrifices so much of themselves (image, fans etc) just to stay true. If Ayu haven't been honest, hell she would have made that apology after the whole CDL01-02 drama just to save her skin. But no. She didn't because she was tru to herself. She's always showed that type of character and I'm quite sure that you guys have thought so about her before too. Why change now? Did you let media brainwash you and change your minds towards her?

I think she did a good job protecting Mannie from all this too. I'm pretty sure that was the thing she wanted to most out of all this. As she have done and also said by herself before, she's more than willing to sacrify herself if she can protect others.
SO very well spoken! I agree with you totally! You've said exactly what I feel but couldn't find the words for.
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Old 18th January 2012, 01:50 PM
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^Yes! I agree.

Ayu have never showed any tendencies to follow Avex promotion program. We have oh so many examples of that. If find it weird that ppl actually thinks that maybe she did this whole marriage thing as a PR trick when she only 6 months later refuced to follow Avex' lead on a-nation'11.

Silly. Lol. If she would do the marriage just because Avex wanted to I'm quite sure she would have done a-nation just the way Avex wanted to as well.

I feel quite sure that Ayu is being honest with us. Naturally, as Love Shine said earlier, there is some sugarcoating on her explanaiton but she have every right to since it is her private life. I do believe her when she say that the earthquake changed things and thoughts. I do also think that there is something more into it but, there's is no need for Ayu to explain for us their feelings into detail.

Ayu have always been quite closed with her private life. She's more open now than ever. But Ayu have always been honest. So so so honest. To herself and us. That's really admirable. There is so few ppl that sacrifices so much of themselves (image, fans etc) just to stay true. If Ayu haven't been honest, hell she would have made that apology after the whole CDL01-02 drama just to save her skin. But no. She didn't because she was tru to herself. She's always showed that type of character and I'm quite sure that you guys have thought so about her before too. Why change now? Did you let media brainwash you and change your minds towards her?

I think she did a good job protecting Mannie from all this too. I'm pretty sure that was the thing she wanted to most out of all this. As she have done and also said by herself before, she's more than willing to sacrify herself if she can protect others.
+1 for sensibility :3
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