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Old 16th June 2006, 07:16 PM
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Old 16th June 2006, 07:27 PM
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well i still liek her materials.. she's liek the icon of japan.. but she should look also to her japanese fans not only putting her point of view on being international.. even if she doesnt promote alot outside nippon... fu~ .... -_-"

now i';ve come to my senses.... lol
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Old 16th June 2006, 07:33 PM
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i think avex has the authorities to hire whatever people on most of ayu's PVs..
and ayu just agreed with it..
avex is one who settle everything that's going on with its artists...

o yea..about the dancers.. i think avex is trying to lower the cost for the PV making without hiring any other persons..because ayu's record sales are not that good anymore....*just an opinion*

but it's just a common thing to use own dancers on the PVs..

she always looks like an American to me.. haha
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Old 16th June 2006, 08:01 PM
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When it comes to what people to include I belive the director of the PV has the most to say. He's given money from avex to make the PV, Ayu does probably discuss a lot with the director how to shape up the PV so I belive she can voice what she thinks aswell.
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Old 25th June 2006, 08:22 AM
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I think it's funny only because people aren't Asian they are American. I'm sorry to be harsh but that's very ignorant... I know it wasn't on purpose but still. And it's not caucasian only, I've seen quite a few black people in her videos (but they're mostly white, I know).

Anyway, I think she puts lots of Ocidentals because she wants more variety I mean, japaneses are more alike (by that I mean they have mostly the same/alike skin-tone and hair color, etc) while there are lots of more obvious difference among Ocidentals.

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Old 16th June 2006, 08:13 PM
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i think the director thinks it looks better with more people from different places...especially with Beautiful Fighters....i wonder if the same guy who directed BEautiful Fighters directed Dearest, Fly High, and all the other PVs that have a lot of people from different countries....
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Old 17th June 2006, 07:53 AM
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Not nessesarily Americans.. could be white people who moved to Japan.
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Old 18th June 2006, 07:41 AM
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Not nessesarily Americans.. could be white people who moved to Japan.
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Old 17th June 2006, 08:35 AM
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Because it's cool and looks very professional.
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Old 17th June 2006, 08:36 AM
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why is there always american in videos of ayu? and smae goes to other avex artists...

why does avex uses american people...

and also i foudn out that most ayu fans are foreingers and peopel not from japan.. why? o.o

not much of japanese really dont liek ayu nowadays.. but why is ayu is stil promoting and her fans is foreings she shoudl just go international.....
Most of Ayumi's fans ARE Japanese. And nearly every J-pop artist uses foreigners in their videos. There are quite a few forgeigners living in Japan just for that purpose - because foreigners are always in demand for CMs, videos, doramas etc.

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Her looks isn't very 'ordinary Japanese', people say she's of mixed blood, we don't know who her dad is. She doesn't look American to me in any way, but who knows?
My parents always speculate about that. (both are in the military and have been stationed in Japan at various points in their life) Being from Fukuoka, there would have been more foreigners around there durring that time than other parts of Japan - it would also explain why her father just suddenly left. Many of her features don't look typically Japanese, but really, who knows. I wouldn't completely rule her out as having mixed blood though.

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Old 17th June 2006, 03:38 PM
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Good question, I've always wondered about it.. But whatever the reason, I think it's part of making it look international and professional. It looks so high-quality too with white people. Strange... o__o I like it better when she does that. And besides that, the people in her videos seem more European than American.
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Old 17th June 2006, 03:53 PM
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^ And that is why we say white people instead of american... Well, don't mind the topic title...
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Old 17th June 2006, 04:32 PM
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maybe Japanese people are really looking at WHITE PEOPLE as a group of people with high educational effort on them? haha
like a worship to them, i guess..huahuahuahuahuhaua
*I myself, somehow really salute to WHITE people (American people mostly) for their braveness when they're doing something dangerous which other people probably unable to do it..)

*LOL..don't listen to me~*

Gosh..somebody just misunderstood us for having a racism discussion here..Gosh..and no, we're not racism in here..we just want to know why and may have guessed for the reason that may come up to the closest reason as Ayu & Avex may think about....
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Old 17th June 2006, 05:10 PM
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^You salute to white people? I salute to Japanese... Not because Ayu is Japanese or anything... It's just that the way Japanese do things... Somehow, they never give up on doing anything and became very good at lots of stuff...

Yes and don't listen to Ayumixx!!!! Jk jk!!! hehe *hides from ayumixx*
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Old 17th June 2006, 07:40 PM
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^You salute to white people? I salute to Japanese... Not because Ayu is Japanese or anything... It's just that the way Japanese do things... Somehow, they never give up on doing anything and became very good at lots of stuff...

Yes and don't listen to Ayumixx!!!! Jk jk!!! hehe *hides from ayumixx*
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not only to american people..
but of course japanese..that's why i like Ayu too...

i think japanese and american people have some common personalities..
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Old 17th June 2006, 05:17 PM
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I thought about it a lot and honsetly, it makes me mad. I mean, making Ayu vids so American :/ (it's not that I dislike America, don't misunderstand me please!). I know what Ayu wants to achieve by that. She thinks that because of Western look, she'll gain more fans. In one hand this is very true - if we consider Japanese fans (as we all know, Japanese teenagers love everything what is Western, American especially). But on the other hand, she won't get more foreign fans... Mainly, most of us (non-Japanese) find Ayu amazing and great because of her Japanese roots, Japanese apperiance etc. Ayumi underestimate the beauty and advatages of being Japanese.
But this is only my opinion. Please don't feel angry with me if you don't agree
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Old 17th June 2006, 06:00 PM
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^breathlessly agree...

Nice one... True... If her PV has japanese instead of Americans, it MAY attract more people...
I don't hate Americans please do not misunderstand... Thank you..
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Old 17th June 2006, 06:31 PM
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But this is only my opinion. Please don't feel angry with me if you don't agree
It might seem like I am, but please understand I'm not at all angry, I just want to make a few points and I do respect your opinion very much .

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I thought about it a lot and honsetly, it makes me mad. I mean, making Ayu vids so American :/ (it's not that I dislike America, don't misunderstand me please!).
The fact that she includes American people does not make her PVs seem American-ish to me. Do you tend to watch a lot of American PVs? Or watch the American version of MTV? Really, I don't think anything can compare in any way with Ayu's PVs... hehe.

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I know what Ayu wants to achieve by that. She thinks that because of Western look, she'll gain more fans.
Don't say you know, because you can't possibly know. And as has been mentioned earlier, please don't say Ayu, say The Director of the PV, because we don't know how much control she has herself over the making of them.

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In one hand this is very true - if we consider Japanese fans (as we all know, Japanese teenagers love everything what is Western, American especially).
This does give some ground to your statement, but I still don't really agree.

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But on the other hand, she won't get more foreign fans...
I don't think that's neccesarily true, she's been going for many years, with many different styles and has never had an internation breakthrough. Possibly mainly because avex don't dare to put their artists on the international marked due to early trial-and-error results from doing so.
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Old 17th June 2006, 06:57 PM
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^I agree with you except the last on on the "But on the other hand, she won't get foreign fans"... Some people may think like "Hey! Ayu has american in her video!" and may consider on listening/buying her songs/albums/watever...

If there is no american, some people may think "Huh? Ayu? Nah..."... they wouldn't even consider because there is no american... And I refer to first time listeners americans... Some people whom may be a fan of ayu will be obsessed/or what you may call it a true fan after knowing her PVs have americans...

So having Americans in PV isn't a bad idea yet having Japanese isn't a bad one too... In fact I think it is better because you attract more pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~ fans... MAY BE some japanese who hates american won't buy her cds bcuz there is american inside... So, the whole concept is a mess... hahaha
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Old 18th June 2006, 08:29 PM
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It might seem like I am, but please understand I'm not at all angry, I just want to make a few points and I do respect your opinion very much .
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The fact that she includes American people does not make her PVs seem American-ish to me.
Aww.. Now I see my mistake. I didn't wanted to say her pv are American. I meant she tries to make her pv look American

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Don't say you know, because you can't possibly know. And as has been mentioned earlier, please don't say Ayu, say The Director of the PV, because we don't know how much control she has herself over the making of them.
Ok, I know it doesn't sound good. But I strongly feel that everything what Ayu is now, is so Western. I don't think that Ayu being queen of po has nothing to say. I believe that she chooses how does she want to look, also all the ideas of pvs have to be confirmed by her.
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