Thoughts on 1 LOVE PV

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by soysaucestar

^ Yes, the BIG EATER part was pretty gross. I feel bad for the guy who had to play the part.

i felt so ewww~~~ when i saw him eating......but who knows? he might really be a big eater?

anyway, i was amaze at how real the beast's teeth look. creepy~~~

[Kodayumi]

Originally Posted by LacusClyne

i felt so ewww~~~ when i saw him eating......but who knows? he might really be a big eater?

anyway, i was amaze at how real the beast's teeth look. creepy~~~

The big eater was like stuffing everything in his mouth, yuck

And yea...the teeth looks creepy, eww~~

[edgefusion]

I think playing the part of the Big Eater would be fun, in the Making Of the food looked TASTY!

[Kodayumi]

^^yes yes!! I saw the spaghetti and other good food, isit how u spell spaghetti? o.O

[Delirium-Zer0]

Ayu seems to consistently choose Clowns as a way of representing Avex in her PVs (and concerts and songs). Perhaps because clowns are entertaining, but can be scary since you never know what their REAL facial expression is under all the makeup. They play charades with both their artists and their audience.

In the case of this PV it does seem to have the same "rebelling against avex" attitude that alterna did. The clown is sort of a ringleader that is basically prostituting out (hence the pole-dancing; ayu feels like she's being prostituted out) all these artists that all fit into certain archetypes, that way they're marketable to certain niche groups. Avex has mostly archetypal and manufactured artists & groups, so I pretty much agree with ayu's assessment of the situation.

Ayu plays both the musician being sold to the public and the police because she's trying to police avex's treatment of their artists through such muckraking as this PV and alterna's PV.

Several famous artists in the US and elsewhere have vocalized their thoughts on how their record labels treat them badly. Very rarely do you hear about artists being particularly happy with their labels. Good examples stateside are Hanson's "Strong Enough To Break" movie and Tori Amos' "Piece by Piece" autobiography, and there are several places I've seen online with write-ups from former producers & musicians about the reality of a record contract. Ayu is, after being in entertainment so long, no stranger to unfair treatment from bigwigs. They have the money & funding for artists to promote themselves though, so aspiring stars go there.

I always interpreted "WONDERLAND" to say that everything seems bright, shiny, and fun for awhile, but after awhile the creepy clown laughter comes in and the misery that can be a music career rears its ugly head. It's not what she thought it would be when she was approached about being a star.

That's my input, anyway.

[immel]

I love you Deli.

Great input, I didn't think of the clown -> avex connection too much when I watched the PV. I loved it from the start and now you just added another few levels of depth to it. Thankies <3.

The question is if it's Ayu who came up with the clown idea from the start, or if some director gave it to her and she's kept it alive. Directors are supposed to know what sells, bashing any given record label sells, lol.

Your theory for WONDERLAND is an excellent idea, too. I wonder if Ayumi was involved in creating it, at all, though. It's hard to know if she just picked it after hearing the composition and had someone arrange it, or however it went. She might also have given specific instructions about that it should be that way.

[Delirium-Zer0]

Originally Posted by immel

Your theory for WONDERLAND is an excellent idea, too. I wonder if Ayumi was involved in creating it, at all, though. It's hard to know if she just picked it after hearing the composition and had someone arrange it, or however it went. She might also have given specific instructions about that it should be that way.

Booklet says that she ("CREA") both wrote & arranged that one.

And awwww, i feel... loved. XD

[immel]

That gives the theory a whole lot more ground. I didn't know it was co-composed.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by immel

That gives the theory a whole lot more ground. I didn't know it was co-composed.

It's not co-composed - Ayumi composed and arranged that track all herself. It's the only one that she has ever arranged.

[immel]

Oops, I failed when I read Deli's post, somehow I thought she said something like "both CREA and someone~", no clue why.

Thanks for correcting me Sunshine .

[Mad_Cactuar]

Genius, brilliant, work of art. I love the ending.

Originally Posted by Delirium Zer0

Ayu seems to consistently choose Clowns as a way of representing Avex in her PVs (and concerts and songs). Perhaps because clowns are entertaining, but can be scary since you never know what their REAL facial expression is under all the makeup. They play charades with both their artists and their audience.

In the case of this PV it does seem to have the same "rebelling against avex" attitude that alterna did. The clown is sort of a ringleader that is basically prostituting out (hence the pole-dancing; ayu feels like she's being prostituted out) all these artists that all fit into certain archetypes, that way they're marketable to certain niche groups. Avex has mostly archetypal and manufactured artists & groups, so I pretty much agree with ayu's assessment of the situation.

Ayu plays both the musician being sold to the public and the police because she's trying to police avex's treatment of their artists through such muckraking as this PV and alterna's PV.

Several famous artists in the US and elsewhere have vocalized their thoughts on how their record labels treat them badly. Very rarely do you hear about artists being particularly happy with their labels. Good examples stateside are Hanson's "Strong Enough To Break" movie and Tori Amos' "Piece by Piece" autobiography, and there are several places I've seen online with write-ups from former producers & musicians about the reality of a record contract. Ayu is, after being in entertainment so long, no stranger to unfair treatment from bigwigs. They have the money & funding for artists to promote themselves though, so aspiring stars go there.

I always interpreted "WONDERLAND" to say that everything seems bright, shiny, and fun for awhile, but after awhile the creepy clown laughter comes in and the misery that can be a music career rears its ugly head. It's not what she thought it would be when she was approached about being a star.

That's my input, anyway.

Sometimes I wonder if Ayu is really that deep. I doubt she hates Avex that much now, she's a lot happier from the Makings and her 2006 interviews, if that indicates anything.

[truehappiness]

Well, I wonder if the clown is something else other than avex :O

Maybe like, society? AHA. No.

Society's the wealthy people though! D:

[immel]

In that case the people throwing money at her like a prostitute... would be us.

Ew.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by immel

In that case the people throwing money at her like a prostitute... would be us.

Ew.

I think that a high percentage of us would do that anyway.

You'd probably be one of them. :p


I guess the mask might indicate a failed-mission?
I wonder if anyone actually got the MUSICIAN-Ayu..

I always thought that the Musician Ayu was like some sort of 'spy' made by police Ayu for some reason.

[Mad_Cactuar]

I thought it symbolized how some people (the clown) took advantage of other people with specialties by appealing to the crowd with these freaks.

Originally Posted by immel

In that case the people throwing money at her like a prostitute... would be us.

Ew.

It's Ayu, so it's worth it.

[bluegie]

I got my cd today so finally I can watch 1 LOVE and momentum.. 1 LOVE is easier to understand. Yet again I didn't think deeply about clown = avex and auction = selling artists etc... I just know she did really well on the pole dancing . Not too ****ty, yet it's so pretty.

I just dun understand the last shot... the mask on the floor.. what does that indicate?

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by bluegie

I just dun understand the last shot... the mask on the floor.. what does that indicate?

I think that indicated that the Ayu in the mask was indeed the police that's being auctioned. It's to reinforce what we thought happened, because they didn't exactly show how the Ayu-spy got caught.

[HiruNoKaze]

I thought she was doing her standard two-Ayu form again. Dancing Ayu would be the muse-Ayu (the inner Ayu who conveys emotion directly to the viewer), who here represents a whole group of people. Here the muse actually interacts a little with the environment, but there still aren't repercussions. For example, she went and pushed bossclown around and no problem, threw money back at people and no problem, danced around a whole lot but nothing really happened to her. On the other hand, the police Ayu is a specific character who is set in the story.

lol sorry if I'm annoying people by mentioning my "muse" interpretation everytime she has two Ayu's, but I really think all of the PVs featuring two Ayus share this characteristic.

When did this all start...I think it was fly high. Remember the NTV interviews? Or maybe the Hamasaki Ayumi DVD interview. She was talking about two Ayus even then. She spoke of the "two Ayus" quite seriously, which led me to believe that this is an artistic device she's using. Quite poetic and a powerful technique, I think. I guess it's her little thing that she likes to do.

[Delirium-Zer0]

Hiru: I think you're probably right about that. I mean, Ayu does the two-ayu thing ALOT. If any one thing in this PV is very deliberate and thought-out, the 2 ayus are. But what does each side represent? From what I can tell it's usually "artistic" ayu (your "muse") and "business" ayu who's working & trying to get something accomplished; the very serious- and structurally-minded one. (In the Fly high PV we see off-shot edited in as the audience-side ayu is looking over the set with the other staff, for example).

[HiruNoKaze]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

Hiru: I think you're probably right about that. I mean, Ayu does the two-ayu thing ALOT. If any one thing in this PV is very deliberate and thought-out, the 2 ayus are. But what does each side represent? From what I can tell it's usually "artistic" ayu (your "muse") and "business" ayu who's working & trying to get something accomplished; the very serious- and structurally-minded one. (In the Fly high PV we see off-shot edited in as the audience-side ayu is looking over the set with the other staff, for example).

Yea, I should get to work doing a thorough investigation of the two-Ayu motif. Should become feasible within the next few days...

I think I'll review the PVs and classify them according to how she uses the two Ayus. I'll watch the interviews and see what I can pick up from them too. This would make quite an interesting chat topic.