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Old 12th August 2015, 05:03 AM
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A BEST 2 only included pre-Secret stuff, so if she includes Secret era onwards it'd be even better. A COMPLETE did include Secret, but it's a single best, and ayu includes album tracks on her regular best's, so I think she does a good amount of hits to include She seems to be reconnecting to her Japanese audience better this year, so if they work on her image (?) well on the next two years, we could have A BEST 3 by her 20th and I'd be pretty much satisfied with it
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Old 12th August 2015, 05:11 AM
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During its release, it was announced A Best 2 would cover from evolution single to Bold & Delicious single, so even (miss)understood album tracks may be on A Best 3...
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Old 12th August 2015, 05:14 AM
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^ Oh sorry, you're right I tend to forget about (m)u I may be the only one on Earth who dislikes it
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(sighs)

This is going to be one nightmare (putting a pun on Dreams Come True to Ayu) that Ayu fans are going to have to deal with. That bitter pill Ayu and her fans have to take all because of DCT...

Come on Japan, give Ayu a chance at #1!!! Koda Kumi got #1 this year, Namie got #1 (among albums)...#WhyNotAyu??? Clearly this wasn't fair! How could a month-old BEST album outrun Ayu???

For one last time...this is plain old stupid. Stupid Oricon!!!
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Old 12th August 2015, 10:51 AM
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(sighs)

This is going to be one nightmare (putting a pun on Dreams Come True to Ayu) that Ayu fans are going to have to deal with. That bitter pill Ayu and her fans have to take all because of DCT...

Come on Japan, give Ayu a chance at #1!!! Koda Kumi got #1 this year, Namie got #1 (among albums)...#WhyNotAyu??? Clearly this wasn't fair! How could a month-old BEST album outrun Ayu???

For one last time...this is plain old stupid. Stupid Oricon!!!
This is the Webster definition of overreacting. Please calm down before you give yourself a heart attack. I promise you, there was no industry-wide scheme to deny Ayu another weekly #1.
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Old 12th August 2015, 11:27 AM
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sixxxxxx dropped to #9 yesterday

Man the sales for albums' yesterday is so poor , it's not even funny . The #1 spot for yesterday , only sold 8,131 copies o_O
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Old 12th August 2015, 02:04 PM
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(sighs)

This is going to be one nightmare (putting a pun on Dreams Come True to Ayu) that Ayu fans are going to have to deal with. That bitter pill Ayu and her fans have to take all because of DCT...

Come on Japan, give Ayu a chance at #1!!! Koda Kumi got #1 this year, Namie got #1 (among albums)...#WhyNotAyu??? Clearly this wasn't fair! How could a month-old BEST album outrun Ayu???

For one last time...this is plain old stupid. Stupid Oricon!!!
Dude, I'd assume that DCT's best of would sell at least a bit more than Ayu's mini album with no prior singles. As I said before a #1 is meaningless when the numbers are so low. Back in the days AAA got a #1 with 26 000 copies with their single and it was laughable at best, the same happened with DEF DIVA with a little over 22k if I remember right. Also for your own sake you need to chill. This is not a big deal and surely not an end of the world.
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Old 12th August 2015, 02:27 PM
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lol Bigtop having a meltdown if any artiste he 'supports' doesn't get #1 , epic

I support/listen to so many artistes & not everyone of them has any #1's in their catalogue but do they care ? No , they still continue to release music as it's

#1 or #100 , it's no big deal , really
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Old 13th August 2015, 09:53 PM
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lol Bigtop having a meltdown if any artiste he 'supports' doesn't get #1 , epic
Maybe he should change his username to "Bigbottom" instead.
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Old 13th August 2015, 11:18 AM
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sixxxxxx went up to #6 (no pun intended)

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-08-12/
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Old 12th August 2015, 07:21 AM
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Out of curiosity... All of those 47 songs released after Bold & Delicious either got certifications, huge youtube view numbers, had strong tie-ins, above average sales, were said by her team to be popular among her fandom or are frequently played at her concerts:

Ladies Night
1 LOVE
Startin'
JEWEL
BLUE BIRD
talkin' 2 myself
decision
Together When...
Marionette
glitter
MY ALL
EnergizE
Sparkle
Rule
Days
Microphone
Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~
Lady Dynamite
Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL
You were...
RED LINE
Love song
Last Angel
crossroad
MOON
Last angel
Virgin Road
progress
BRILLANTE
how beautiful you are
Party queen
Wake me up
Song 4 u
SAKURA
You & Me
XOXO
Feel the Love
Hello new me
Pray
Merry-Go-Round
Last Minute
Zutto...
The Gift
Movin' on Without you
The Show Must Go On
Step by step
Summer Diary

A Best 2 had 30 old tracks + Part of me... A lot of those songs were pretty big, so I guess A Best 3 would perform well.
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Old 12th August 2015, 11:30 AM
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Wow still in top 10!

Sales must be really bad this week, except for DCT of course
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Old 12th August 2015, 01:17 PM
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Honestly though the rank doesn't matter at all, it's more about the numbers. The rank os more of a symbol and it always depends on the competition
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Old 13th August 2015, 08:37 AM
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We will see if DCT can stay almost 2 years mostly on recochoku's top 5 like A BEST does j/k

But it's great for DCT to stir interest with their hits so far this point in their career.

sixxxxxx is already doing good enough.
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Old 13th August 2015, 10:20 AM
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Really, 30k for a mini-album is a great result! Especially in an Oricon world full of gimmicks (not aimed at DCT, more aimed at the countless K-pop/J-pop idols with their handshakes and entry to events/concerts for buying X number of copies of their single...). I'm not familiar if Ayu had any, but I'm guessing not.

Dreams Come True's best-of sold so well because it is a 3-disc career best-of priced insanely well. 3500 yen for 50 songs! Compare that to 1800-3200 yen for Ayu's 6 songs.

I don't think them being a group is the reason why it sells so well. They are very well respected and for good reason. They're versatile with their music, especially in the last decade. Someone similarly well respected, Yuming, released a best-of that was exactly the same: career best-of, 50-ish songs for 3500 yen, and it sold just as well as DCT's.

The Oricon chart is becoming less relevant. You can't really compare numbers between artists anymore like you could 10, 20 years ago. It went from being like comparing peaches and plums to comparing peaches and dog food. Uh yeah, they're both food...and that's it. So don't be upset Ayu lost to a release so completely different to her. She still had the best-selling original album (mini or full) for the week! Good job Ayu!
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Really, 30k for a mini-album is a great result! Especially in an Oricon world full of gimmicks (not aimed at DCT, more aimed at the countless K-pop/J-pop idols with their handshakes and entry to events/concerts for buying X number of copies of their single...). I'm not familiar if Ayu had any, but I'm guessing not.

Dreams Come True's best-of sold so well because it is a 3-disc career best-of priced insanely well. 3500 yen for 50 songs! Compare that to 1800-3200 yen for Ayu's 6 songs.

I don't think them being a group is the reason why it sells so well. They are very well respected and for good reason. They're versatile with their music, especially in the last decade. Someone similarly well respected, Yuming, released a best-of that was exactly the same: career best-of, 50-ish songs for 3500 yen, and it sold just as well as DCT's.

The Oricon chart is becoming less relevant. You can't really compare numbers between artists anymore like you could 10, 20 years ago. It went from being like comparing peaches and plums to comparing peaches and dog food. Uh yeah, they're both food...and that's it. So don't be upset Ayu lost to a release so completely different to her. She still had the best-selling original album (mini or full) for the week! Good job Ayu!
3,500 yen for 50-some songs (roughly 70 yen per song) is pretty cheap! At a time when a single iTunes song costs 250 yen...ugh. (>_<)


Now this makes me wonder...from Arama Japan: "Ayumi Hamasaki sheds tears on NHK SONGS; netizens react" - http://aramajapan.com/netizencomment...s-react/21174/

It makes me wonder...did NHK SONGS hurt Ayu's run for #1 instead of help? Because if so, I think we've got big lessons to learn here...
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Old 13th August 2015, 07:38 PM
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3,500 yen for 50-some songs (roughly 70 yen per song) is pretty cheap! At a time when a single iTunes song costs 250 yen...ugh. (>_<)


Now this makes me wonder...from Arama Japan: "Ayumi Hamasaki sheds tears on NHK SONGS; netizens react" - http://aramajapan.com/netizencomment...s-react/21174/

It makes me wonder...did NHK SONGS hurt Ayu's run for #1 instead of help? Because if so, I think we've got big lessons to learn here...
All of the comments I read were negative...But then her reputation is pretty damaged in the media, and no one is going to have any sympathy for her "running away" to LA since everything that happened to her is her own doing *shrug*

Atleast she's doing ok digitally.
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