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View Poll Results: In terms of creativity I prefer...
Asian music (Japanese, Chinese, Korean...) 162 70.13%
Western music (American, European...) 69 29.87%
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Old 5th September 2009, 02:44 PM
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Honey look at the gif a little closer.

Western artist performing her English song on TV in Japan. Influencing the masses. Never the other way around.

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So? Fame in America = instant fame everywhere, regardless of how talented you are or not. Look at the big picture. It's all about marketing, not talent, not to mention the pre-concieved notions Americans have about Asians which makes it hard to succeed in the States + having to change their music a lot to fit the US music scene to where it doesn't make them stand out at all. That's why Asian artists hardly make it in America. This is common knowledge...

As for Britney performance-wise, she's not half the performer she once was. Which is too bad, because that was one thing she could at least do well. Now? Not so much... And the Circus theme isn't all that original anyway, even certain Asian artists were using it before Circus came out.

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She's saying that you shouldn't use Ayumi as a sole example because Ayu doesn't fully represent Chinese music, Japanese music, Korean music, etc.
=/= means two things are different. Ayu is a part of j-pop, which doesn't make her irrelevant at all.
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Old 7th September 2009, 01:10 AM
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Asian. For sure.
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Old 7th September 2009, 01:53 AM
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I avoided this thread for so long because I knew it would make me mad.

Asian music, aside from folk/traditional music, is usually just inspired by Western music. I don't understand how people can say 'oh Western music is uncreative and all the lyrics are the same and there's no emotion and it's shallow, there are no good US artists, blah blah'. Not all Western music is good, and yeah, quite a bit the mainstream variety is shallow and cruddy, but most people on this board listen to mainstream Japanese/Chinese/Korean artists, so, what's the difference, exactly? Look how many popular Asian artists don't write their own lyrics or compose the music and are basically just a pretty face with an ok voice. I love Mongolian music, for example, but really, the music there is only strating to modernize now (even albums released a few years ago have a horribly dated sound), and you know what, most of it sounds like Western music :O homg.

Western music is not limited to what you see on TV/hear on the radio, nor is it bad. Geez, people...
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Old 7th September 2009, 02:12 AM
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^ So basically what you're saying is no one is allowed to prefer Asian music?
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Old 7th September 2009, 02:20 AM
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^No. Just that the notion that Western music is uncreative, unoriginal, and commercialized and that Asian music is better than it, because of those things, is stupid, espcially since most Asian music takes cues directly from the Western industry.

Which is true. I think...it's kinda sad that a lot of people still believe in those stereotypes about Asian music as well, and the ones against Western Music.
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Old 8th September 2009, 02:52 AM
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while i prefer Asian music and the Asian market, i have to say that Western music has a greater breadth. statistically and stylistically, modern popular music originates in the US. it also seems that Western artists are more likely to try alternative styles and take greater risks because there is a bigger audience to support in the West than in the East.
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I think most people in this forum mostly listen to Asian music
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Old 2nd November 2009, 01:02 AM
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^ I agreed, western music is boring for me nowadays
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Old 2nd November 2009, 08:58 AM
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I also voted for asian music
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depends on what music you mean.

do i find music like Hello Project, Johnny's, SM creative? Well, unless you mean creative in the sense that they "create" super groups, not so much. Mass produced songs, mass produced images even, given to pretty people to attract buyers isn't what I'd call musically creative. And that goes for girl and boy bands all over the world--it just happens that Asia seems to be the only one with hugely popular groups like this anymore.

Artists that take control of their image and know who they are and create moving music, art even, are creative. If all they do is sit their and sing a song that's handed to them over and over again, that isn't creative no matter what part of the world you're in. People may enjoy that music, but please don't claim that it's creative--or at least say you think the writer of the song is creative.

Enjoying or not enjoying music is different then thinking it's creative or uncreative.

For instance, I think Marilyn Manson is ridiculously creative. He speaks volumes with his music and videos and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him. But do I listen to his music? not at all. I don't like that type of music. But his lyrics and images are striking and they do something to stir the listener/watcher. It's inspiring and it makes me think.

And rap? Rap came from something that was extremely creative. it was originally used to express immense amounts of emotion, troubles, loneliness etc. even though eminem uses words that i don't like, some of his songs are genius and they have such sadness in them that pop songs don't have. (and to be honest, pop songs have just as much sex in them, it's just not as blunt.)

music lends itself to being used all over the world, influencing people of all kinds. saying all western music is uncreative, or vice versa, is stupidity. there are extremely creative and uncreative singers in asia and the west

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Its hard to vote, really... I like the way Japanese artists release music constantly, but I like how Western artists are usually the first to do things, since the truth is that the great majority of Asian music is inspired by (and sometimes completely lifted from) Western music.

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i missed alot in this thread
people speaking of porn stars? what was that for?
you can always find a reason to talk about porn stars! porn stars FTW!!!


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Old 4th December 2009, 03:47 PM
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music lends itself to being used all over the world, influencing people of all kinds. saying all western music is uncreative, or vice versa, is stupidity. there are extremely creative and uncreative singers in asia and the west
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Old 6th December 2009, 08:27 AM
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In all honesty, Western, without a doubt. It's just that you have to look beyond the typical Britney Spears image of Western music. There is so much variety and creativity in more alternative and indie music industries.

Beyond a handful of amazing Japanese artists (Ayumi Hamasaki, Utada Hikaru, Namie Amuro, Hidemi Uematsu, alan, Ai Otsuka), not to mention Sa Dingding , the mainstream Asian music industry is just as bland and over-processed as Western mainstream pop.

Besides, most Asian artists site Western artists as their major influences and 95% of the music industry is based upon Western sounds and instrumentation.

EDIT: Ultimately I do agree that music is unbounded by geography or race and every part of the world has something musically inspiring.
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I go with Asian. Since I started listening to Asian music, I've been the most satisfied with music. Music vids are better, the songs for the most part are so much more deep and thought out, and it's so much more fun to talk about.

The concerts, the videos, the albums... it's all more exciting, as a whole, in my opinion.
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Basically, I look at it like this.

Western producers come up with new sounds that become big. Asian producers here these sounds, and copy them but make improvements and make them better.

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WESTERN for sure... WAY more creative.. unless you're talking about TRADITIONAL asian music, J-pop etc just takes Western foundations of music and adds their own twist

Westerners invented modern music, end of story
well said. As for the CREA comment.... sorry but she isn't as creative as everyone thinks. I give her props for what little songs she has composed. I am sorry to burst some bubbles here but the [ DUTY, i am..., RAINBOW ] era is probably the only era in wich her music sounds the best. Newer stuff isn't so great with the exception of a few select songs from Memorial Address, (miss)understood, Secret, GUILTY, Next Level...

I am not meaning to trash ayu in any way, shape or form... this is merely my opinion, please repsect it.
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